D'Juhn Keep on 24/5/2006 at 16:31

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this thread is now about whatever the hell =)

I love this, RBJ is openly insulting and mocking of fett and fett is all replying calmly and shit. Bob is NOT insulting and fett starts with the insults.

I fucking love how you will only start with someone if you don't think they'll fight back, you cunt (fett)

Myoldnamebroke on 24/5/2006 at 16:36

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Also let's not call OnionBob OB because it makes me think of Hollyoaks.

























http://www.hollyoaks.com/img/cast/33/small.jpg

Shug on 24/5/2006 at 16:50

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TAKE A SWING YOU SKIRT

Rug Burn Junky on 24/5/2006 at 17:05

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Fair enough that there are stupid people who do it incorrectly, but I assure you, if I say it, it's properly drenched in sarcasm, and is therefore anything but an excuse.Not at all. I'm not ignoring it's success, but I am patently denying it's impact. It's a fuckin' book. (OK, and a movie.) At the end of the day, it's pop culture, and most people really are smart enough to take it as such. The lowest common denominator morons that are the subject of this should be treated as irrelevant, the problem is that people blow their impact out of proportion.

The people squawking about it all say "Well, I know it's not true, but other people will believe it." Nobody's really coming out and complaining "OMG, I read it and thought it was true myself! This man must be stopped before he tricks someone else like he tricked me!" at least, not anyone with any brains. And aint' not one person has come up with an example of how serious scholarship will be tainted by this book. It just isn't there.

The only people who do believe it are either A) conspiracy wingnuts, or B) people that we all laugh at because they can't even name the vice president when they get interviewed for Jaywalking on the Tonight Show.

There are people who believe this. Those people are ignorant. Those people were already ignorant. This doesn't change that no matter how many copies of the book/DVD are sold, read or watched, and the paternalistic "worrying" about it is, quite frankly, a load of bullshit of the chickenlittlesque sky-is-falling type (ignoring for the moment, the please-offend-me-so-that-I-can-complain-about-it self interest groups.)

It really doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Nobody does, or should, take the people who believe it seriously, so the meta argument about whether it's irresponsible to create such a class of people is just as meaningless.

And if it makes any sort of difference in whatever level of academia one is in, then that's simply an indictment of the level of scholarship in which one toils, and Dan Brown can't be blamed for that.

Correct. Well, mostly. I started it, didn't care for it much, and my wife's, and Scots's, subsequent panning of the book itself confirmed most of my fears from having read the opening chapter.

Ulukai on 24/5/2006 at 17:19

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I'm posting this prior to actually reading the thread, so my thoughts aren't corrupted by you 'orrible t'internet n'er do wells :cool:

I read the book. As a book, I read it incredibly quickly because trashy and convoluted though it was, it was most definitely a page turner.

I was really looking forwards to seeing the movie - how could it possibly go wrong with 3 of my favourite actors in it? (Jean Reno, Audrey Tautou & Paul Bettany, that is. I don't rate Ian McKellan so much myself.)

Alas, half way through I was beginning to yawn, although I was abruptly awoken by the head-on flashback with the truck, to the extent that I physically jumped out my seat with a sharp intake of breath and a muttered 'fuck' which didn't go down too well with the bloke sitting to the right of me. Don't feel sorry for him though, he brought along some kind of processed meat which stank the whole theatre out. The bastard.

Um yes, anway. Subsequent to that moment the whole thing went even more downhill. I wasn't particulalry bothered by the deviations from the book, but it was all so bloody confusing. The people who didn't read the book can't have had much of any idea what the hell was going on. The fact that Fache never so much as uttered a word to Sofie and Langdon after catching them in a church pointing a gun at Teabing (even though he knew they were the innocent party by that point) was ridiculous.

It was probably a good thing our intrepid couple didn't get it on, because the chemistry between Hanks and Tautou was non-existant. Bettany stole the movie for me with his menacing portrayal of Silas, perhaps fortunate that he wasn't cursed with much of the dialogue.

I came out the movie and said "What the fuck". "Meh", said my friend. And then we drove home. Wait, I had to climb dukes of hazzard stylee out of the car window at the exit to the car park because I didn't stop close enough to the barrier machine. This, along with the jumping-out-the-seat and the Posiedon trailer was the highlight of the evening. The Da Vinci code is a truly horrible movie.

Columbia has the rights to Angels & Demons, folks. And they've given it the go-ahead. Dan Brown was probably not overheard to comment, "ka-ching!"