Starker on 25/5/2016 at 09:30
I think I had more tolerance for bullshit back in the day. Trial and error gameplay, long hours of grinding, unnecessary padding, clumsy awkward interfaces... things of that sort. These days my time is much more valuable and there are so many more games to choose from.
icemann on 25/5/2016 at 16:20
One thing I've got into in the last 5-10 years is going through the entire / majority of games in a series, using emulation when the best version was on console. Many of the 80s-90s games had VASTLY superior versions on consoles when compared to their PC/Amiga originals.
Went through 1-7 of the Might and Magic series, 1-4 of the Arc The Lad series and 1-5 of the Y's series. Fun times :).
Want to get through all of the Shin Megami Tensei / Persona games at some point. Only played the first SMT game so far.
zajazd on 29/5/2016 at 17:14
Quote Posted by icemann
Want to get through all of the Shin Megami Tensei / Persona games at some point. Only played the first SMT game so far.
of them? :eek: It will take hundreds of hours. They are all dating sims with endless repetitive generic dungeon crawling. I needed two long breaks to beat Persona 3 on PSP but even then I could not do it and played the ending on Youtube.
Zerker on 29/5/2016 at 18:45
Quote Posted by zajazd
They are all dating sims with endless repetitive generic dungeon crawling.
Just Persona 3 and 4. The rest are more on the dungeon crawl aspect. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 on PS2 actually have very interesting dungeon design, which made the tower of Persona 3 even more disappointing.
Yakoob on 30/5/2016 at 09:43
Quote Posted by Starker
I think I had more tolerance for bullshit back in the day. Trial and error gameplay, long hours of grinding, unnecessary padding, clumsy awkward interfaces... things of that sort. These days my time is much more valuable and there are so many more games to choose from.
Pretty much this. Used to sink whole nights into long immersive sims, FPSes and drawn out RPGs. These days I prefer the smaller (usually indie) equivalents I can beat in an evening or two. Gives me a chance to try out more titles as well.
But I still like the same genres as before, RPG, FPS, immersive sims, story-games, and occasional strategy/citybuilder ala Civilization or Patrician.
Thirith on 30/5/2016 at 09:48
I'm wondering if smaller, shorter RPGs are feasible; at least the character-building aspect might be difficult to incorporate, unless you take a completely different approach. Or are there shortish RPGs that work?
In general I'm very much in agreement, though. I find that I have much less patience for padding and repetition in games. (You could say that some of my favourite games of the last few years were the first halves of Assassin's Creed games, and some of my least favourite games the second halves of AC games...) Even games I greatly enjoy tend to wear thin towards the end. That's also one of the reasons why I've been hesitating to get started on The Witcher 3, in spite of all the good things I've heard about the game.
scumble on 30/5/2016 at 12:01
It's an interesting question...
I have been in and out of gaming for various reasons. Part of the time I'm just telling myself I'm supposed to grow out of it, but what is more grown up about playing football or golf when you're middle aged?
For me I don't think tastes have changed. The rise of games similar to minecraft brought in a different dynamic to games that didn't exist when I was young. I have found these diverting for a while, but mostly because I've played with my children. On my own I run out of motivation to keep building things.
So it seems I'm more likely to get more involved in something that pulls me into another world, as Skyrim did.
I'm trying to think of some old examples from the late 80s and early 90s when I either had a BBC Micro, Atari ST or Amiga to play with. My memory is really terrible actually. Or I can't see how a 2D shoot em up like Turrican 2 was immersive in 1991 any more.
I guess it's a question of the imagination being stimulated.
I can see Brethren's perspective about going off violence to some extent. I find that given the choice in games I will try to go for the less evil response because that's the way I am. I don't like role playing a complete asshole, even just to see what happens. I don't think I've actually changed there though.
I've not become more casual with games, I think I just need more self control to avoid staying up until 1am because I can't get away with the lack of sleep anymore.
icemann on 30/5/2016 at 14:00
Quote Posted by zajazd
They are all dating sims with endless repetitive generic dungeon crawling.
I can't speak for the rest of the franchise but the first SMT certainly wasn't that. No dating in that whatsoever. It's 100% dungeon crawler in the same vein as the first Phantasy Star game. Top down views when outside with first person view whilst indoors.
The ridiculous amount of random encounters is the main negative for the game. At least you can talk your way out of 3/4 of them, which when used effectively assists with the demon fusing / recruiting side of the game.
heywood on 30/5/2016 at 15:18
One big change for me was that gaming started out as a social activity and eventually became a solitary activity.
Up until age 25 or so, probably 75% of the time I was playing with friends, either multiplayer games or taking turns at single player games. The peak of that for me was the heyday of LAN Quake, still the most fun I've ever had gaming. The solitary 25% was spent playing sims.
Then in the late 1990s, two things happened: friends got lives and it was harder to get together, and immersive first person games started to capture all my attention.
Now, 15+ years on, I still enjoy the same games. My tastes haven't changed. I have far less free time to play now, but I would rather play the shit out of one really good immersive single player game than rush my way through to get on to something else. When Human Revolution came out, I played nothing else for 3 months, logging ~100 hours or so. Same thing when Dishonored came out.
scumble on 30/5/2016 at 16:06
Quote Posted by heywood
One big change for me was that gaming started out as a social activity and eventually became a solitary activity.
I think I might like it to be more social, but the closest I get is a bit of online gaming with League of Legends. Although it's only gratifying when some sort of team dynamic is occurring.
