<Username> on 5/1/2025 at 10:11
Quote Posted by Kamlorn
Double holed toilets. [...] Is there something I dont understand?
Private toilets used to be a luxury and were frequently reserved for the nobility. Medieval or ancient toilets with multiple holes next to each other were common.
Stats:* Normal difficulty
* 1 hour and 16 minutes
*
543 of
1687 total loot
* 0 hints needed
Elements I liked:* The intro cutscene is very good, on par with the original Dark Project campaign.
* The map is great.
* Horse!
* Lots of verticality and non-linearity.
* Finding myself on the rooftops looking down to where the mission had started.
* Some hidden areas are delightfully grimy or creepy.
* The
scare in the room with the decapitated corpse was well done. I did not expect
the lights turning on suddenly.
* I wasn't sure if I had passed by the
statue when I went to the Pagan altar. When I saw it on my return, the uncertainty made the scare even more effective.
* All the journals with lurid stories about organized crime.
* The Whitebell undertaker puts Hammer symbols on the caskets, as he should. No out of place Christian symbols in this mission.
Could be improved:* Nothing really. The mission is not a perfect 10/10 for me because it lacked a big surprise, a technical marvel, or unusually captivating the story, but based on my experience with this superb first mission, I am confident the following missions in the campaign will deliver that.
Other observations:* On the walls, there are posters about Pagans in Lampfire Hills, a reference to the classic and groundbreaking fan mission Autumn in Lampfire Hills.
* Both Cragscleft and Pavelock Prison are mentioned on other posters.
* Captain Pearsall and a person with the name Grandmauden are references to TTLG personnel and TTLG fans. There may be more that I missed.
The note about the Downwinders near the orphanage may be a sneaky one.* I remember the Larloch society, mentioned in the Whitebell undertaker's journal, from Calendra's Cistern.
Snake on 5/1/2025 at 11:17
Quote Posted by <Username>
* Captain Pearsall and a person with the name Grandmauden are references to TTLG personnel and TTLG fans.
These are both characters referenced in the original games.
<Username> on 5/1/2025 at 12:12
Interesting, I did not know that. I thought the names were in reference to Steve Pearsall, the director of T2, and to TTLG forums member (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/member.php?u=75648) Grandmauden.
In Melan's TDP20AC entry Rose Garden, Garrett sneaks into Grandmauden's mansion. I always thought that mission's journal entries about Grandmauden's garish design choices were making fun of the TTLG forums member's DromEd skills, but I guess I was wrong. :laff:
FireMage on 5/1/2025 at 16:24
Quote Posted by <Username>
Interesting, I did not know that. I thought the names were in reference to Steve Pearsall, the director of T2, and to TTLG forums member (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/member.php?u=75648) Grandmauden.
In Melan's TDP20AC entry Rose Garden, Garrett sneaks into Grandmauden's mansion. I always thought that mission's journal entries about Grandmauden's garish design choices were making fun of the TTLG forums member's DromEd skills, but I guess I was wrong. :laff:
You know... Most of the forum members here take their username from Thief's characters, thus FMs mostly refer to the game's lore rather than the member
Everytime you hear about a downwinder, it's about the Thief's Guild, not the Downwinder we've got here
Captain Pearsall is also a canon character from the game, refered as an officer from the Baron's Police corrupted by the aformentionned guild
And so on!
When a mission refer to a member of the forum, the result tend to go further than just the name, it's more about a way of writing, the reference of a mission by name or detail, or just a mere iconic anecdote
marbleman on 5/1/2025 at 17:13
I just want to add that doing so would be in bad taste, and Melan wouldn't do such a thing.
<Username> on 6/1/2025 at 18:27
Thank you for enlightening me, FireMage and marbleman. It is obvious you take great care with your missions, and that includes how you incorporate characters or events from both original and fan missions. :)
Referencing TTLG forum members directly seemed to be more common in the earlier days of fan missions. From the top of my had, I can think of the graves of legendary heroes Viper V1, XaraX, shadowspawn, and Datoyminaytah in Mines of Margroth (T1), or the self-insert of Brother Apache in The Keep (T1). For T1, there is also the tasteful and touching TTLG graveyard in Making a Profit. For T2, there is a fan mission I won't name here which features a note which is specifically about TTLG forums member downwinder. And there is one for T3 which has an entire room dedicated to a TTLG forums member.
Mongokino on 10/3/2025 at 09:51
Hi!
Just started playing Black Parade and boy does this take me back! :D
However, after restarting the first mission I am no longer able to find the Guard's key.
Playing on hard. Have knocked out and moved every guard in the guard house, so should have picked it up by now, right?
Any tips? Or possibly a fix/cheat in case its a bug?
Cheers taffers!
baeuchlein on 10/3/2025 at 18:05
On Hard, this key should indeed be in the possession of an archer patrolling the guard house, as fortuni's walkthrough for "The Black Parade" says. Maybe he (the archer, not fortuni:cheeky:) fled for some reason? Maybe he fell unconscious and landed somewhere out of sight?
Mongokino on 11/3/2025 at 06:17
Yeah, either something like that or I managed to drop it somewhere. Will have to replay I guess.
baeuchlein on 11/3/2025 at 14:54
If you upload your last savegame, we can check out in DromEd where the key and archer are.
