Angel Dust on 3/10/2007 at 13:42
Quote Posted by BEAR
Have you ever ridden with anyone who was high?
I rode with my wasted mate once. His reactions weren't the best but he was only going 20-30km most of the time :laff:
fett on 3/10/2007 at 15:02
Quote Posted by BEAR
Have you ever ridden with anyone who was high? I doubt it helps your driving skills but comparing it to drunk driving? Once again you've taken stupid to a new and exciting level.
To me, you dont even have to justify pot or claim reasons it should be legal, more you can just rail against the reasons it was made illegal. The government lied out its ass to make it illegal in the first place. Its far less detrimental to alcohol or cigarettes, so any reasoning for making it illegal is moot at this point. I dont even care really, I dont smoke but its fucking insane to see people going to jail over this shit.
Well said. I don't smoke either, but I'd put my life in the hands of a pothead 10x over than I would a drunk. War on drugs - sure. War on marijuana? Fucking ridiculous.
Nicole on 3/10/2007 at 17:21
I agree with Fett. Drunks are dangerous and ridiculous. Potheads are just ridiculous.
But, I think that those who use heavy drugs, Heroin and Crack etc need to be helped or stopped or whatever/however.
I hate to see my tax being used to fight marijuana. Use it to fight hard drugs.
Leave the potheads to their bliss, I say.
nic
catbarf on 3/10/2007 at 20:42
I really don't give a flying fuck about weed. I recall reading that it's actually [relatively] safer than cigarette smoking, but is illegal in the US because someone in US history (cotton farmers in the 30s...?) saw it as competition, and got it banned.
Making it illegal doesn't stop people from using it. It just costs loads of money for citizens.
demagogue on 3/10/2007 at 22:12
That may be an early source of support, but I think in the current climate, the support that's keeping it going is coming from a sort of conservative perspective that really doesn't like "mind-altering" stuff, (and alcohol and tobacco somehow don't fit into the "bad" kind of mind-altering, but pot does, probably because high class people can still enjoy a drink and a smoke, but not pot).
And then they'll try to justify it by a story that it's a gateway drug, and highlight the statistics to show that story. But I can't believe it's really the "gateway" argument that's motivating them. It seems pretty straightforwardly a kind of class bias, and maybe a suspicious distinction between what's a good versus a bad kind of mind-altering.
Starrfall on 3/10/2007 at 22:23
Quote Posted by Thief13x
If it's legalized it will probably turn into as big of a problem as DUI.
No because people who only drive 5 mph have a hard time getting into serious accidents.
Quote Posted by SD
So when is the United States going to face up to the fact that the War on Drugs is a dismal failure?
We learned in 1933 but then got drunk and forgot the last 14 years.
Pyrian on 3/10/2007 at 22:30
Quote Posted by SD
So when is the United States going to face up to the fact that the War on Drugs is a dismal failure?
We can't even get these people to agree that the war in Iraq is a dismal failure. :p
Rug Burn Junky on 3/10/2007 at 22:50
The drug war has always been about keeping black men from voting by finding out what they're addicted to and making it illegal.
It's a miracle our government hasn't outlawed fat, white women.
catbarf on 4/10/2007 at 00:20
Quote Posted by demagogue
That may be an early source of support, but I think in the current climate, the support that's keeping it going is coming from a sort of conservative perspective that really doesn't like "mind-altering" stuff, (and alcohol and tobacco somehow don't fit into the "bad" kind of mind-altering, but pot does, probably because high class people can still enjoy a drink and a smoke, but not pot).
And then they'll try to justify it by a story that it's a gateway drug, and highlight the statistics to show that story. But I can't believe it's really the "gateway" argument that's motivating them. It seems pretty straightforwardly a kind of class bias, and maybe a suspicious distinction between what's a good versus a bad kind of mind-altering.
Yeah, it just doesn't make any effing sense that booze is legal but pot isn't. Of course, with the current status of the gov't, it looks like we might have a state religion any day now :p
Angel Dust on 4/10/2007 at 00:56
Quote Posted by demagogue
And then they'll try to justify it by a story that it's a gateway drug.
The funny thing is it's the fact that it is illegal that makes it a possible gateway drug. It possibly exposes people to dealers who may offer, or know someone who does, 'other' products. However if it was sold at the local cornerstore along with cigarettes etc I don't think it would be a gateway drug at all.
