Scots Taffer on 7/1/2010 at 01:07
Quote Posted by Chimpy Chompy
How does any of that imply the queen is a bitch?
I didn't call her a bitch! :D
I use cunt as a term of endearment, obviously.
Tocky on 7/1/2010 at 02:45
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
"Bitch" and "cunt".
WTF guys? Is that really necessary? It just frames your posts so badly.
These two things are exactly what I like my post to be framed by. Just sayin.
And just to reiterate what I always post in the knighting threads, why can't they be required to lop someones head off or at least knock someone off a horse? Is that so much to ask for such an honor? All that ceremony and not one good mace upside a head.
And I got a game started on your turn my turn SE. I think.
SubJeff on 7/1/2010 at 02:57
And yet if I were to formally suggest that, Scots, it is I who would have been lambasted! Personally I quite enjoy the Royals; they're like living history. Plus they don't do any harm. I just find it a bit. . . dull/immature to say stuff like that about anyone who doesn't really deserve it, nevermind a harmless figurehead like the Queen.
At last Tocky! Now you'll get to see some real Knight action.
Edit: Your turn! :D
Zygoptera on 7/1/2010 at 07:10
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
Yeah, Subjective, it's quite amazing that those whose ancestry comes from lands ravaged by the Monarchy would have less than a huge amount of respect from them.
Which is fair enough, except what happened last time England
wasn't a monarchy was considerably worse, ie Oliver Cromwell.
Macha on 7/1/2010 at 16:56
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Personally I quite enjoy the Royals; they're like living history. Plus they don't do any harm. I just find it a bit. . . dull/immature to say stuff like that about anyone who doesn't really deserve it, nevermind a harmless figurehead like the Queen.
You're damn right that they're living history. But do you know what that history is? What they still call the law in Northern Ireland we call apartheid, internment, conscription, partition and silence. And she's harmless? I have lost many members of family and friends to the hands of many incarnations of the British army and for what? Because the 'King and his men' want to conquer Ireland. And why did they want that? Because they are fascist bastards. How do I not have the right to insult a monarchy that has committed genocide against the Irish nation (to give only one example) because the Irish would not conform to their foreign crown? I don't think you can claim to understand the pain of waking every morning into a country ("Northern Ireland") where your identity is, by design, suppressed.
An equally valid point, how pathetic a monarchy is in this day and age. England is supposedly meant to be one of the most advanced countries in the world but they still cling to their monarchy. Why should she be born into that luxury and watch life from those ivory towers? England is not a democracy and until it is the country is politically backward and has nothing to say to me.
Matthew on 7/1/2010 at 16:59
Oh boy.
Edit: yeah, I'm from there too in case you didn't know.
sh0ck3r on 7/1/2010 at 21:54
Quote Posted by Zygoptera
Which is fair enough, except what happened last time England
wasn't a monarchy was considerably worse, ie Oliver Cromwell.
I assume you're saying that strictly in the sense that Cromwell was technically "not a monarchist" and not in the sense that Cromwell was a real republican or parliamentarian, considering he was a hunnish dictator who, though demanding man's "liberty of conscience," dissolved parliaments that didn't conform to his own conscience. Cromwell seriously contemplated becoming king and really, what was the Lord Protector but a king? I trust you aren't defending England's rejection of "freedom" in favor of monarchy based on its taste of freedom in the Interregnum, which was no freedom.
As for the monarchy, it's a mixture of Mussolini, Paris Hilton and Santa Claus (benevolence for impressionable children).
Zygoptera on 7/1/2010 at 23:25
I think you might be reading a tad much into my comment. I just find the :raeg: :raeg: :raeg: response somewhat ironic when the one time England was a Republic the guy in charge was a complete douchebag (and, it should be acknowledged, he was equally so to many English and Scots as well).
