[TG, T2] Game Crashes on start

denadul on 18/1/2011 at 14:49

So I've bought the complete Thief collection and installed Thief Gold, as well as The Metal Age. However, when I try to play one of the games, following thing happens:

* Thief Gold
* Intro does not play.
* I'm thrown into the main menue, through which I can navigate properly and just fine.
* Upon starting a new game, the game crashes with the usual Windows-Error-Message.

* The Metal Age
* Intro does play.
* As soon as it's finished doing so, the game freezes into a black screen, the mouse is visible, the menue is not; however I do hear the background music.

Here's what I've tried to do in order to fix this:

* Applied the ddfix onto my installation of Thief 2
* I do only play on one CPU-core
* Did a clean reinstall.

Here's my system information: (http://goo.gl/O6juk)

Any help would be graciously appreciated.

voodoo47 on 18/1/2011 at 16:28

that link is protected against hotlinking,I'm afraid.

ffox on 18/1/2011 at 16:58

The link is OK for me.

denadul on 18/1/2011 at 20:15

Quote Posted by voodoo47

that link is protected against hotlinking,I'm afraid.

Well, i guess this is the most important information thereof, i guess:

Quote:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/4/2011, 13:25:56
Machine name: rho
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100216-1514)
Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: P415L
System Model: P4Dual-915GL
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 1096MB used, 3872MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_10201462&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug und Play-Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9745 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/3/2010 23:55:31, 6432128 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: Nicht zutreffend
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 4/3/2010 23:55:31, 10232128 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4742-11CF-C351-2B3000C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0402
SubSys ID: 0x10201462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: SB Audigy Audio [DC00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_00531102&REV_03
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1196 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 8/11/2006 13:45:38, 499584 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 191999
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 60
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 60
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

voodoo47 on 18/1/2011 at 20:23

hmmm..try setting "frames to render ahead" to 0 in the nvidia control panel,and/or "MenuUpdateDelay" to 25 in ddfix.ini (do not forget to remove the ; from the beginning of the line).

denadul on 19/1/2011 at 19:43

Quote Posted by voodoo47

hmmm..try setting "frames to render ahead" to 0 in the nvidia control panel,and/or "MenuUpdateDelay" to 25 in ddfix.ini (do not forget to remove the ; from the beginning of the line).

Awesome. I did do the MenuUpdateDelay and it did work. So I do can play Thief-2 properly now.

However I do not know how to set the "frames to render ahead" to 0, where can I learn how to do that?
ThiefGold still doesn't allow me to start a new game without crashing. Is there a ddfix for ThiefGold too? Or can I apply the regular ddfix patch to TG as well?

voodoo47 on 19/1/2011 at 19:54

ddfix works for thief1/gold as well.."frames to render ahead" is a nvidia specific setting,it should be found in the (http://www.nvidia.com/object/performance_group.html) nvidia control panel.

denadul on 20/1/2011 at 15:36

great man. Thief-1 works perfectly fine.

There are two problems left for me now:

Thief-2 works fine, however i can't change Garrett's view with the mouse, so he's just staring into one an the same direction, if you know what I mean.

I installed T2X to play it afterwards, however I encounter the same problem I had with Thief-2... why is that I wonder, do I have to apply the patch to T2X as well or what?

But anyways, thanks a lot already, ThiefGold runs awesomly well man!

voodoo47 on 20/1/2011 at 19:44

yes,you will have to install ddfix into T2X folder as well.

as for the mouse problem,no idea,it's the first time I'm seeing something like this-so the mouse does not work at all?

denadul on 21/1/2011 at 14:33

Right, I fixed T2X and it's good, thought there's the same problem with the mouse. In addidion I don't see the intro sequences in T2X, however I do see them in Thief2... did I miss out something in the technical FAQ? Tried the movie fix and it didn't work...

Mouse problem: The mouse itself seems to work during the menue, however once I enter a mission it becomes usless: the actions I bound to Mouse-1 and Mouse-2 key do work, but the x-axis and y-axis rotation of Garretts head does not. I just tried to play the game with another mouse, it did not help, so I guess it's a software problem which I haven't encountered before... any suggestions?