TDP20AC Mission — Making a Profit (11/30/2018)

vfig on 5/1/2019 at 19:44

Quote Posted by SuaveSteve

It would appear that the secret item is randomly placed.

Correct.

The Mike on 6/1/2019 at 01:33

This mission was FAN. FREAKING. TASTIC.

I can't believe the quality that's been on display in this contest...this is right up there with the best Thief Gold FMs I've ever played!

And it was a perfect celebration of Thief, as well. You go to a city, a manor, a hammerite cathedral, a haunted crypt, pagan caves-- it's like an entire Thief game rolled up into two hours! Though I feel like a lot of people will consider it their least favorite part, the maze you need the tome to navigate was a highlight for me. Forcing us to go back through it with an unstoppable monster on our asses was downright DASTARDLY.

Question: not far from the graveyard, just before you turn off into the city square where Argeaux is hanging, there's a power station with a really obvious secret door on its second floor. How do you get it? The not nearby makes me think its connected to the pagan tunnels beneath the tower in some way, but I never found out how...

This was terrific, thanks for creating it!

prjames on 6/1/2019 at 02:01

Quote Posted by The Mike

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Question: not far from the graveyard, just before you turn off into the city square where Argeaux is hanging, there's a power station with a really obvious secret door on its second floor. How do you get it? The not nearby makes me think its connected to the pagan tunnels beneath the tower in some way, but I never found out how... ...

After you've disrupted the ritual, search the outer edges of that pagan area closely. If you're careful, you'll find a tunnel that leads to the other side of that door.

- prjames

vfig on 6/1/2019 at 03:05

Quote Posted by The Mike

Though I feel like a lot of people will consider it their least favorite part, the maze you need the tome to navigate was a highlight for me. Forcing us to go back through it with an unstoppable monster on our asses was downright DASTARDLY.
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This was terrific, thanks for creating it!

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. That particular bit is definitely marmite for players. Really glad you enjoyed the chase!

<Username> on 6/1/2019 at 14:44

Finished on Normal in around 3 hours with 2539 loot and 17 secrets. I wasn't able to solve the mausoleum puzzle at first, but with the help of the ancient tome from the lady's mansion, it was easy. Of the TDP20A contest missions that try to include all classic TDP elements (City, Mansion, Tomb, Hammerite and Pagan), this one pulled it off the best I think.

The area in memory of MsLedd was touching. The whole graveyard is dark, except for the candles in that little corner.

Two things that could be fixed after the contest in a new version:
1. If the player stands in the doorframe of the library where brother Milton patrols, the light gem goes completely dark.
2. If the player slashes the two hanging banners in brother Darios's former room, the lower part of their remains appear to be floating in midair.

Vera on 9/1/2019 at 17:51

Quote Posted by vfig

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. That particular bit is definitely marmite for players. Really glad you enjoyed the chase!

I doused all the mushrooms in monster's cave. Then I stood behind it, took the hand, staying in darkness near wall slowly returned to the corridor and then escaped fast. So the monster didn't even notice me. The escaping route in case of chasing is also very easy and fast.

Galaer on 12/1/2019 at 20:08

Wow, that was really amazing mission to ghost. It took me 2 hours 42 min. I got 2242 loot out of 3262 and 11 out of 24 secrets. I could do a mission a little faster, but I had a problem with getting enough loot. Luckily I found some gold vases at the entrance room of Di Rupo Manor. I also skipped wooden chest with loot in it, because pick locking it cause sleeping man to wake up. I managed to ghost everything with exception of story related stuff (KO-ing Anax and unavoidable second alert after stopping the ritual).

I had problem with stationary archer looking at Fishmonger Area when I was taking Anax to the meeting place. But the hardest thing was ghosting ritual. The first time I pickpocket the Hand and the light in the whole area got turn on. And I noticed that even though I stopped the ritual by taking hand, I still need to rescue Anax. And with fully lighted area it was impossible. I reloaded previous save and this time my target was Anax. I used 3 moss arrows and wait until darkness. 1 or 2 seconds before darkness I started my run, took Anax, turn around and run + jump to shadow. This was tricky. Kinda embarassed, but it took me 15 min to find exit cave.

I decided to not free prisoner from Hammerite Compound, because it look like he noticed me and second alert. I have no idea if I should also put back the Hand to Prophet Tomb and Anax back to crypt or his bed.

Anyway it was really solid mission and I like it a lot, but I have 1 question: Is there any hint how to solve the elemental levers riddle from Argaux's house? I managed to do that by trial and error.

vfig on 13/1/2019 at 03:03

Quote Posted by Galaer

I had problem with stationary archer looking at Fishmonger Area when I was taking Anax to the meeting place. But the hardest thing was ghosting ritual. The first time I pickpocket the Hand and the light in the whole area got turn on. And I noticed that even though I stopped the ritual by taking hand, I still need to rescue Anax. And with fully lighted area it was impossible. I reloaded previous save and this time my target was Anax. I used 3 moss arrows and wait until darkness. 1 or 2 seconds before darkness I started my run, took Anax, turn around and run + jump to shadow. This was tricky. Kinda embarassed, but it took me 15 min to find exit cave.

Impressive work! It is also possible to douse the lights in the ritual chamber (temporarily or permanently), though whether that breaks any of the rules you're playing by I don't know.

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Anyway it was really solid mission and I like it a lot, but I have 1 question: Is there any hint how to solve the elemental levers riddle from Argaux's house? I managed to do that by trial and error.

Yes, just search the room a little more and you should find a couple of relevant items.

Jack Lee on 14/1/2019 at 10:05

For some reason this mission tries to load as a Thief 2 mission in my NewDarkloader. Can someone tell me the way how to fix this? Thank you!

vfig on 15/1/2019 at 15:48

Quote Posted by Jack Lee

For some reason this mission tries to load as a Thief 2 mission in my NewDarkloader. Can someone tell me the way how to fix this? Thank you!

This sounds to me like you're still using Darkloader, not NewDarkloader. Darkloader is known to improperly detect Thief 1/Gold missions made for NewDark as Thief 2 missions. I strongly recommend against using Darkloader to launch this mission (or any other contest mission).

With NewDarkloader (as with NewDark's built in FMSel), you should have configured cam_mod.ini for the game to use the loader, then launch the game's exe itself—the question of the loader detecting whether a mission is for Thief 1 or Thief 2 doesn't apply.