McTaffer on 9/12/2018 at 17:48
Quote Posted by smithpd
I read the readable, and I found a thing -- the
Adviser's Emblem. It had a
particle beam going down into the sarcophagus. I don't know what did it, the
five antenna beams, the telescope beam, or both. I had to kill 3 AI to get it, so the ghost run is busted. Tomorrow I still have to find the stones.
The crystal being hit by the five particle beams is directly above the Adviser's Tomb. The
telescope is a bit more obscure, but the easiest way to find out is to follow the
pipes. There was another
astronomy tower in an OM that you've likely visited. If you can remember why you had to go there, the
telescope will make sense.
smithpd on 9/12/2018 at 19:01
Thanks McTaffer. That was helpful. I don't remember that astronomy tower in the OM or the reason for going there. If you would kindly give me a spoiler on the OM one, then I might have a better clue for this one. Meanwhile, I'll try following pipes.
McTaffer on 9/12/2018 at 23:38
The OM I'm referring to is Return to the Cathedral. One of the tasks Brother Murus gives you is to make a holy symbol. The first step being to forge it, and the second to bless it. In order to bless the holy symbol, you have to climb the astronomy tower to dip it in moonlit water. This mission makes slightly different use of the moon, but the basic premise is the same. Once you find the endpoint, I think you'll understand what I mean.
smithpd on 10/12/2018 at 07:56
Well, I finished it in Expert. Got all objectives (as required) and missed 327 loot. Thank you McTaffer and StinkyKitty for an excellent mission!
I traced the pipe from the telescope to find a holy water fountain. Sorry to make such a big deal over a relatively small item, but it was entertaining.
I have an issue with the Mystic's Heart. I needed a speed potion to get up the ramp. I was lucky to have one. Is there another way? If not, it is a potential dead end, never being able to complete the mission.
Mat99 on 10/12/2018 at 11:40
Quote Posted by smithpd
I have an issue with the
Mystic's Heart. I needed a
speed potion to get up the
ramp. I was lucky to have one. Is there another way? If not, it is a potential dead end, never being able to complete the mission.
No, You did not need it.
You missed another way - up way :) Check a route with two gates (up and down) after You put the lever You found down in zombie area. There is another route above leading to Mystic Heart :)
McTaffer on 10/12/2018 at 16:51
Quote Posted by smithpd
I have an issue with the
Mystic's Heart. I needed a
speed potion to get up the
ramp. I was lucky to have one. Is there another way? If not, it is a potential dead end, never being able to complete the mission.
So you just ran straight up the
ice ramp and left? That's one way to do it, I suppose.
marbleman on 10/12/2018 at 17:01
That's what emergent gameplay is all about :cool:
Mat99 on 10/12/2018 at 18:39
Quote Posted by McTaffer
So you just ran straight up the
ice ramp and left? That's one way to do it, I suppose.
Ice ramp should be longer then ;) or
Speed Potion should be removed from the mission. But then again someone will try to
stack crates :D In this particular example I think there should be ONLY one solution, but maybe I'm wrong and multiple choices to do a brainstorm in player's head are good? ;)
smithpd on 10/12/2018 at 20:46
OK, I went back and got the Mystic's Heart by the "preferred" method suggested in part by Mat99. It's a bit trickier, but no speed potion is required. The solution is, after invoking the zombie with the lever, a door opens with access to a tunnel to the water. I already knew that. But then I had to back-track to an area I had been before to find a newly opened route to the Heart. I had missed that route previously, so I had used the speed potion out of desperation. I agree that the speed potion should be removed. Maybe a little clue to go back would help. Thanks, Mat99. :)
The clue could be a note left in the newly opened room between the zombie and the tunnel. Something like, "What have I done!? I released a vicious zombie, and now I can't find the route to the heart. I'll try back tracking."
marbleman on 10/12/2018 at 20:50
Why remove it? The way you did it sounds just as legit as the intended way. Thief is not a game about giving the player only one approach.