N00bThief on 5/1/2019 at 19:10
Finished with 7614/8704 after nearly 2h. I really liked the book titles in the library and the paintings from the "artist". Took me a loot of time to find the statue head and switch for room 203.
I couldn't find out what the switch at the oven behind the bar is opening. Any hints on that one?
Haplo on 6/1/2019 at 00:39
Quote Posted by N00bThief
I couldn't find out what the
switch at the oven behind the bar is opening. Any hints on that one?
Nothing! It turns the rotisserie on and off, that's all.
BlackJack16 on 6/1/2019 at 01:10
Quote Posted by The Mike
EDIT: Blackjack16, if you still need the book...
You need to use the hammer on it in order to collect it.Thanks TheMike; It was the
newly opened doorway in the circular room that I failed to see and
walking a different path in that room helps. It reminded me of this quote...
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results...... (yep that was me!!).
No problems solving the puzzles to collect the book and then finish the mission. Finished on expert in about 2hrs 40mins with
8399/8704 loot. Excellent mission and enjoyed the puzzles.
Galaer on 6/1/2019 at 08:48
2 hours 45 minutes. That's my time for ghosting this mission. In the stats, because I think this mission took me twice more. I didn't expect too much problems from this mission. I was scared more of Gort's mission. I was naive. This mission was a disaster for me.
Couple of things I discovered. Switch in the closet appears only after reading guest book. This confused me a little. And Ramirez doesn't always appear in the same place. In my first playthrough he appeared in the shrine, so he wasn't big problem. But during ghosting playthrough he appeared in the garden. To get his key I wasted 30 min to push very slowly guard to the right. During that woman servant slip to the swim pool and died unfortunately. I don't think that's a bust yet, because she died not because my actions.
After 52 min I entered catacombs. I had a problem with getting candle, because a trap alert haunt. The only solution I found was tanking it. I lost 9 HP, but haunt wasn't alerted. And after that I needed to descend to water quietly while haunt was walking nearby. In this I managed to succeed. River of lava I managed to beat without creating bridge.
It took me 30 min to kill first guardian without him spotting me. I planned to push second guardian into trap. Unfortunately I noticed he's not moving, so I was forced to get his attention. Also trap alerted haunt nearby. So that's the first bust. Maybe second if you assume that killing first guardian was a bust as well.
Second bust was destroying the portal which alerted every monster from nearby. And the last and the most painful bust was Ramirez. This bastard see me no matter how quiet or fast I am. He doesn't first alert anymore. You will get visible and he's on you. That was my biggest mistake. When I noticed that Ramirez is in the garden I should have restart the whole mission. Next I tried to return to the entrance of catacombs and stuck items. Unfortunately there isn't too many items in this mission. Most of the stuff is unfrobable. The best result was touching rope, but I couldn't climb up. I tried for 1 hour before I gave up and return to save after running away from Ramirez. At least I reduced pursuit to only him.
The final note is that mission would really benefit from heaving more moss arrows, because they are really valuable in the catacombs.
Haplo on 6/1/2019 at 10:09
Quote Posted by Galaer
The final note is that mission would really benefit from heaving more moss arrows, because they are really valuable in the catacombs.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep this in mind if I do an updated version. I'll also try to make it more ghosting friendly.
zappenduster on 6/1/2019 at 11:08
Meanwhile I finished this FM in the second attempt with Haplo's personal help (he deactivated a deadly trap) :D grabbing 8009/8704.
redleaf on 6/1/2019 at 13:06
I LOVED the artist's room! Congrats on a very fun mission, Ali :D
<Username> on 6/1/2019 at 14:43
Yeah, the artist's room is the funniest thing I have seen in the TDP20A contest so far. :cheeky:
Mat99 on 7/1/2019 at 21:36
I played this one today :) Great adventure and as I suspected - solid, fun and very good Ali's mission as always :)
The mission is rather simple, I suspected problems, but I have none of them. All you need is in the readables/notes, and reliable sneaking, searching, snooping and prediction does the rest :) Everything is logical and can be solved by intuition.
The loot requirement IMO is much to low too. 6000 is like piece of cake with no effort (circa/about 70% of all). 7200 should be well balanced. A little more pressure, but still not hard, but... maybe Haplo doesn't want to annoy players or make gameplay too frustrating for them? ;)
However, the real and true challenge is to pass the mission as ghost! A few spots seem to be not ghostable, but as usual, I don't bother 1st alarms ;P so - no matter for me ;P Just trying no killing and no BJ-ing as always. Feeling and atmosphere both were great.
Haplo, is there a little bug possible?: When you take a holy bath in Hammerite's Chapel it is very difficult to... 'un-bath' yourself ;) I suspect You didn't take into account that anyone would be going inside? (inside both of them ;D) Players can just lean forward and see there is nothing there, but... yeah... ;) Hmm... betatesters did not have a problem with them? :O The left one is much harder to leave :) Maybe simple solution is: to make the baths a little deeper? or water-level should be higher? :)
The Lost City area is begging for more than two keeper's keys, but this means more new LC-areas... so indeed maybe that compact 2-keys solution You made is more accurate :) Probably I just did not have enough/want more of Your mission ;D
The adventure takes me 5h 48min (cheatty stats says 3h 39min). Found 8339/8704 of loot. Haplo, can You tell me what kind of loot in each category I missed? gold: 3279, gems: 1305, goods: 3755
Does that oval area with the obelisk, ghost and lying zombie conceals secrets? any of loot in the two stone's tombs/sepulchres?
Haplo on 7/1/2019 at 22:49
Glad you enjoyed it.
1. Holy bath? Do you mean the two fountains in the room in the crypt where you get the hammer? I never jumped in them. Thanks for the feedback, I'll fix them.
2. The lost city had an elaborate puzzle for getting the key on the second level. I didn't like the puzzle at the end so I dropped it. Those rotating gears in the basement are all that's left from the puzzle.
3. If you send me your save game I'd be happy to take a look and tell you what loot you've missed.
4. No loot or secrets in that oval room if I remember correctly.