TDP20AC Mission — An Enigmatic Treasure with a Recondite Discovery (11/30/2018)

GORT on 3/1/2019 at 10:04

Oh, I have a guess as to what happened.

There's a blue and green female servant that had a letter that triggers it. Since you've did everything else, you may want to check around the city to see if there's a floating scroll. Since you've completed most of the objectives, some of the AIs disappeared. I was kind of hoping that everyone would see that scroll on her left hip, but I guess it wasn't as visible as I thought it was.

Sagittal on 3/1/2019 at 12:25

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Thanks GORT - I had the same issue but since searching around the city I found the scroll as you suggested. I'd thought the information might be back at the Opera House where I couldn't return :( - so pleased to find it and was then able to finish (3195 / 3665 loot and 1/3 secrets on Expert). I am sure there is a secret by the fountain at the guild - not the stones puzzle - which appeared to partially activate at one point but I don't know why? Any hints?

Certainly a tough mission - as we probably expected :D - with not a lot of equipment and where stealth is essential - great to see the Opera House and a warehouse feature and no undead! Clues are pretty light on where to go or what to do sometimes with a few dead-ends and I found the the high AI sensitivity pretty tough (my own fault for choosing Expert :) maybe) but satisfying to complete this challenging mission . Thanks GORT .

john9818a on 3/1/2019 at 19:05

Ok thanks Gort. I'll go back and look. The scroll I have now has the poem at the end. After completing most of the objectives I found a key floating which now makes sense.

Edit: I found it exactly where I left the female servant.

Galaer on 4/1/2019 at 17:16

Oy oy oy oy oy oy... It was really stressful mission to ghost. It took me 2,5 hours. I got also 2 secrets out of 3 (even though the stats are saying that I only got 1 secret). I remember beginning when I KO-ed 15 NPC in the first playthrough. Seeing all of them on the street was an impressive view.

I had huge dilemma with guards at the front of Opera. I saw a report that somebody managed to slip through guards with just first alert, but I wasn't happy. Doing that in normal circumstances would mean that guards could notice me and immediately attack me. I felt that abusing the fact that they start as neutral NPC is wrong. Instead I decided to use servant's services. Which means that's a bust for me. I hid the bodies in the shadow in the corner. It ended with first alert from every NPC walking towards stairs. It's funny that NPC have problem with noticing me standing in the shadow near them, but if there is laying body nearby in full shadow, they immediately first alerting to it. Also a fun discovery that gas explosion is a little independent from servant. It means that servant must meet with guards first, but explosion is happening only if Garret watch it. Even if servant left this place long time ago!

Now for Opera itself. Left side of Opera is very hard to pass and also completely pointless. I wasted there lots of time trying to ghost it. Right side is also very hard because of archer's random patrol combined with stationary guard. I had problem with getting to the second floor, because stationary woman was there. At first I thought she froze there and tried to rope up to the balconies, but I failed. Luckily I noticed that the woman change direction of looking.

In the city the hardest part is definitely the bridge with stationary archer. Him and lots of traffic in this area means that this is hard place to ghost.

Warehouse area was surprisingly easy to ghost with only 2 a little troublesome spots. First was a room with an old man and blue gem. I needed to turn off the light, then saved only to notice that old man stopped at watching outside door. I felt like cheated. I really hate these random patrols. Second problem was Hammerite getting stuck in elevator and blocking it from use. Luckily he was facing the corner of the room. It took me few minutes to figure that I can use shoot rope arrow from entrance to room onto ceiling and mantle onto second floor. That was quite a riddle.

Mage Guild have lots of hard spots. I noticed that if you get spotted once then immediately appears that you got noticed the second time as well. I don't think it should work that way. I used 4 moss arrows in the area with stationary mage guarding 4 chests area. Also I think it's weird to use quiet floor that looks like noisy floor in the area of 4 chests. And I wonder if NPC can notice me through wall which is invisible.

Another huge problem was quest with Rogue Mage. It is optional and it involve knockout. Also I didn't know if I manage to transport unconscious body without getting spotted by the guard patrolling Guards Room area. I can barely do that without body, so I don't think it's possible to do it with a body. That's why I have decided to not trigger this objective. But I needed to get Golden Skull in front of Rogue Mage, so I decided to push him forward. And I noticed a problem - he's moving diagonally into statues on the right. That was quite a problem. Luckily I figured out that I can mantle on table and then jump on metal railing. Thanks to that I pushed him back onto path between statues and in much faster pace than on the ground. I got Golden Skull. I was really proud from my solution.

Escape part was easy and I beat this mission. Now that I think, I wonder if teleported unconscious bodies of guards can be spotted by other teleported NPC. That would be another bust then. But I can't check that, because there is no body count stat for this mission.

john9818a on 4/1/2019 at 17:48

I know this doesn't particularly pertain to only this mission, but I've noticed that AI can see ko bodies in dark shadows even from far away in New Dark for Thief Gold.

redleaf on 4/1/2019 at 21:09

It's been ages since I've played a mission, and this one is probably not the easiest starter. I have only found the opera house, not the warehouse or the guild. I have an odd poker, and have been running all over the place looking for a place to use it, but no luck. Thank goodness there are no tiny switches to find here, as I apparently can't even find entire buildings!

N00bThief on 4/1/2019 at 21:15

When i try to play this misson, i can't see an goals, it only shows my the boxes without text. I have installed the TFix 1.26a and i use the NewDarkloader 1.5.8 with thief gold...

GORT on 4/1/2019 at 23:29

@N00bThief
Are you having the same problem with OMs and/or other FMs?

N00bThief on 5/1/2019 at 03:09

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@N00bThief
Are you having the same problem with OMs and/or other FMs?

No, except one other FM so far (Lorgans Web)

GORT on 5/1/2019 at 07:08

Hmmm... I think I'll go for the little stuff first.

1.) Is there a strings folder in this FM on your PC? (Check the zip and/or the installed folder)

2.) Also, is your installment of Thief Gold in English or German?