Ricebug on 7/9/2014 at 21:54
Are you referring to the combat bot and guard trying to squeeze past each other in the archway? Happens all the time if patrol routes cross lines with each other.
Renault on 8/9/2014 at 00:49
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Tafferpatcher just an installation program, combining a whole bunch of patches into one package? Unlike Tfix, it doesn't really change/modify the game on it's own, right?
If so, I'm wondering why XModule continues to post about errors they find here. They've got nothing to do with DJ Riff, or Tafferpatcher, specifically.
voodoo47 on 8/9/2014 at 12:20
just like TFix, it does include overhauled resources and maps (and unlike TFix, it actually allows the user to NOT install them).
Renault on 8/9/2014 at 16:14
Right, but is the overhauled stuff done by DJ Riff, or other authors? For instance, I know Tafferpatcher includes the Bugfixed missions pack, but that's 100% the work of Antimater_16.
voodoo47 on 8/9/2014 at 17:54
yes, but this place is much convenient when you want to complain about something.
Summer on 23/10/2014 at 14:55
Original TMA (installed with TP) plus some FMs don't work anymore. I can't even get into the startup screen of TMA, not directly with Thief2.exe, or the shortcut at desktop, or via Darkloader. Some FMs do work, though, like COSAS: Mission X (apparently bugged though), Pirates Ahoy!, and Breaking the Stone. But most don't.
I have Win 7. I don't know if the problem is because of New Dark or residual crap from a prior FM. My whole Thief2 folder looks weird: It's missing folders like Pal, Bitmap, Books, Fam, Intrface, Mesh, and Obj. They were there when I was playing Mission X, but then when I reinstalled the original game, they were gone! Can't say how long they've been gone since it's been ages since I last checked out TMA. The missing folders could explain why I can't get the game even to start! There's just a popup screen of "program failed to load." Oddly, though, TG is working fine. Don't have many FMs for TG, so I don't know about those and how well they work.
Should I uninstall with Tafferpatcher and then reinstall? I could save my current saves, and try again with a clean install. Yeah, this topic should probably fit better at the troubleshooting area. I'll move this there if you think so. I was wondering, is it possible New Dark could make certain older FMs unplayable? I'm assuming TP is not the culprit. If anyone's had a similar issue....?
In any case, I miss my TMA. Last time I played was early last year, in the middle of Shoalsgate. Guess Skyrim got my attention then.... (Yes, blasphemy, I know)
Renault on 23/10/2014 at 15:23
@Summer - those folders you mentioned will only be there if you have an FM loaded. When playing vanilla T2, they won't be there. If you're getting "program failed to load" then I would just save your saves, and then wipe everything else out and start over with a fresh install using Tafferpatcher. It doesn't take that long.
Just curious though, when you say that some FMs don't work, is it the same error, "program failed to load" or something else?
nickie on 23/10/2014 at 15:36
If a clean install doesn't sort things out for you, Summer, I'll move this to a new thread for you. Some fms don't work very well with NewDark so you might want to have 2 or more installations, one vanilla-ish for those and one up-to-date for everything else.
And a general reminder that Tafferpatcher hasn't yet been updated to include the latest NewDark v1.22 so, to play the latest releases, you'll need to do that manually. (Ahem, Brethren :) )
Summer on 23/10/2014 at 15:54
Quote Posted by Brethren
@Summer - those folders you mentioned will only be there if you have an FM loaded. When playing vanilla T2, they won't be there. If you're getting "program failed to load" then I would just save your saves, and then wipe everything else out and start over with a fresh install using Tafferpatcher. It doesn't take that long.
Just curious though, when you say that some FMs don't work, is it the same error, "program failed to load" or something else?
Yup, the same error with original game and some FMs. They won't even start.
Didn't know that about the files. Got distracted by a thread that said sometimes those folders have residual stuff left over from FMs and should be deleted. I was weirded out by not seeing the folders at all! Guess now I know why. :sweat:
Summer on 23/10/2014 at 15:55
Quote Posted by nickie
If a clean install doesn't sort things out for you, Summer, I'll move this to a new thread for you. Some fms don't work very well with NewDark so you might want to have 2 or more installations, one vanilla-ish for those and one up-to-date for everything else.
And a general reminder that Tafferpatcher hasn't yet been updated to include the latest NewDark v1.22 so, to play the latest releases, you'll need to do that manually. (Ahem, Brethren :) )
Two installations of the same game? Hmm, never done that before. Guess it's worth considering if it solves these problems.
I'll do a fresh install and see what's what. BTW, when's the next ND update going to be included into TP? Just wondering if it's soon, in which case I'll wait before doing the reinstall.
