ffox on 13/7/2011 at 15:57
I've done it both ways and both worked. (The Tafferpatcher I used was older than the current one - version 0.6.2.)
Neil_McCauley on 13/7/2011 at 16:59
Quote Posted by ffox
I've done it both ways and both worked. (The Tafferpatcher I used was older than the current one - version 0.6.2.)
Can that version still be found? Did you install widescreen patch, mission fixes, textures, etc?
ffox on 13/7/2011 at 18:27
When first installed it wouldn't run for more than a few seconds until the multi-core problem was sorted with (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127533&p=1878295&viewfull=1#post1878295) FlipTIB.
At that stage it ran without crashing, although colours, textures etc were awful. ddfix sorted that. Then I applied the widescreen patch - selecting the best resolution took a bit of time.
No bells and whistles were added until later.
sNeaksieGarrett on 13/7/2011 at 19:51
The problem is that thief was meant for windows 98 or windows 2000. So it's really no surprise you're having problems, and the issue is that we may not even be able to solve the problem because you have a newer system that hasn't been tested on.
Anyway, my understanding is that thief crashing after playing for a few minutes or trying to start a level is because of multi-core problems IIRC, since the game wasn't meant to run on multi-core systems.
The latest ddfix versions should have multicorefix = 1, so it should be fine, but it's possible that your older version of ddfix doesn't have that enabled. Check the ddfix.ini file. Mid-post update: I checked my 1.1.1, and it doesn't have a ddfix.ini. Hmm. Do you have a ddfix.ini for 1.1.1?
If you check the affinity and you see that it's still running on more than 1 core despite having made sure that the multicore fix is enabled, then you need to make it so that it only runs on one by other means. There are multiple ways of doing this, just depends on how you want to go about it.
Neil_McCauley on 14/7/2011 at 00:35
I just installed with TafferPatcher .6.2 on my XP machine, but the installation path was a USB drive. Chose ddfix and widescreen utilities. Went to the Win7 laptop, changed the installation path in darkinst.cfg, and the same thing that has been happening all along: totally black screen, I hear the menu. I move around the mouse and I hear the familiar sounds. I can find QUIT and it quits like normal. It's just, well, totally black. I've tried "disable desktop composition" with and without Compatibility in various configurations. Checked the Affinity on thief2.exe, one core.
Neil_McCauley on 14/7/2011 at 18:47
Quote Posted by Neil_McCauley
I just installed with TafferPatcher .6.2 on my XP machine, but the installation path was a USB drive. Chose ddfix and widescreen utilities. Went to the Win7 laptop, changed the installation path in darkinst.cfg, and the same thing that has been happening all along: totally black screen, I hear the menu. I move around the mouse and I hear the familiar sounds. I can find QUIT and it quits like normal. It's just, well, totally black. I've tried "disable desktop composition" with and without Compatibility in various configurations. Checked the Affinity on thief2.exe, one core.
OK, I think I didn't have the correct resolution in ddfix.ini and cam.cfg. Changed it to the laptop's widescreen res and the menu loads fine, I can start a new game.
HOWEVER, when the mission loads (no movie), it's 4:3 resolution, the image is totally screwed up, and I get this message:
"the screen mode could not be set" and the game crashed.
I noticed a pop-up - "Change to Windows 7 Basic Display" or thereabouts, and "a running program is not fully compatible" or something like that.
sNeaksieGarrett on 15/7/2011 at 00:05
Did you bother to check those links?
The screen mode could not be set is a resolution mismatch problem.
Either
A.) ddfix.ini / cam.cfg do not match
or
B.) You've set a resolution that is not compatible with thief.
That pop up is normal for older games in windows 7. Basically, it's automatically disabling the special Aero features of W7 for the game. (It's the same thing as checking disable desktop composition, I think.)
Neil_McCauley on 15/7/2011 at 03:07
Quote Posted by sNeaksieGarrett
Did you bother to check those links?
The screen mode could not be set is a resolution mismatch problem.
Either
A.) ddfix.ini / cam.cfg do not match
or
B.) You've set a resolution that is not compatible with thief.
That pop up is normal for older games in windows 7. Basically, it's automatically disabling the special Aero features of W7 for the game. (It's the same thing as checking disable desktop composition, I think.)
thanks for the help.
