DJ Riff on 12/10/2010 at 17:19
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
So did any of these "other optional resource patches" get applied to the contents of those four CRF files (mesh.crf, obj.crf, snd.crf, strings.crf)?
Well, I see 3 possibilities here.
1. There are same files as those to be patched in one of your custom folders. Then, the Patcher will find them first and replace them, the game will use them.
2. There are such files in your custom files at all. The Patcher will find original files in RES\*.CRF and replace them, so the game will use them since they are not overridden by anything.
3. There are files with the same names in custom folders, but they differ from originals (already patched, or modified somehow). The Patcher will skip them, search further and replace the original ones. The game will still use modified files from custom folders.
The 3rd possibility seems very unlikely (patch 1.18 surely doesn't contain them), and if it occurs, there are great chances that modified files are already fixed properly, so you won't see any difference.
Zathros on 12/10/2010 at 23:11
Hi
I've looked around for a while and don't see instructions on * how to use Tafferpatcher *.
Do I install it before I install Thief 2, i.e. before i even slide in the disc? - or after? Do I install it to the same folder name that Thief 2 will want to load into, i.e. Program Files\Thief 2? Does it reguire other fixes or patches be made first? Is there a users guide of some sort?
We've been playing thief for 10 years and love it and are loving the fan missions too. Would love to have the benefits Tafferpatcher offers!
Thanks !!!!
Zathras
DJ Riff on 13/10/2010 at 18:19
Tafferpatcher does not require an installation of itself and can be run from any place. The message on the first page may be confusing as I didn't know how to change it at that time. Actually, it asks you to specify the folder where Thief2 is installed or should be installed. If you point to the empty folder, the program will ask you for an installation CD to install the game. If you point it to the existing installation, it will proceed with it. I think it's better to use an original installer if it works in your system though, as your distribution CDs may have differences which Tafferpatcher is unaware of. No additional patches are required to be installed before running Tafferpatcher. No need to run Thief2 for the first time before running Tafferpatcher too.
Zathros on 14/10/2010 at 01:02
Thank for the reply, DJ Riff.
Ok, so I got the patcher to start running then at the end it stopped with a message something like "Unable to update executable files. Make sure you have access rights and try again" - which I should have cuz I am the administrator. Could this have been cause by my anti-virus, or software firewall?
It looks like some updates took. There is a BACKUP folder and a Tafferpatcher.ini with this:
[COMPONENTS]
ddfix=installed
stm=installed
ssch=installed
obj_patch\fixedferns=installed
obj_patch\fixedgasarrow=installed
obj_patch\fixedmecgas=installed
obj_patch\fixedvinearrow=installed
miss_patch\miss01fix=installed
miss_patch\miss02fix=installed
miss_patch\miss11fix=installed
miss_patch\miss13fix=installed
miss_patch\miss15fix=installed
[SETTINGS]
width=1280
height=1024
FOV=100
Anyway, now when I try to run Tafferpatcher again, it says, 'Unable to execute file in temporary directory. Setup aborted. Error 5. Access denied.
Any suggestions?
Thanks again -
Mr. headbone on 14/10/2010 at 16:00
Will the latest version of DDFix ( as of this writing it's 1.5.5) be incorporated into TafferPatcher?
I've read currently it's version 1.4.4.
BTW; I've used this patch on a clean fresh install; ( WIN 7 PRO x64 bit; I7 core 950 CPU; 6 gig RAM); and it went very smoothly. Thief 2 looks and works great :thumb:
DJ Riff on 14/10/2010 at 16:50
Quote Posted by Zathros
"Unable to update executable files. Make sure you have access rights and try again" - which I should have cuz I am the administrator. Could this have been cause by my anti-virus, or software firewall?
Antivirus — maybe, firewall — unlikely. If you have Vista or Win7, then to run Patcher with Administrator rights, you need to right-click on it and choose "Run as Administrator" from the context menu (yes, these new systems are
that paranoid). Do not install Thief into Program Files folder as OS may protect executable files in it from being modified.
Quote Posted by Mr. headbone
Will the latest version of DDFix ( as of this writing it's 1.5.5) be incorporated into TafferPatcher?
I've read currently it's version 1.4.4
It will, of course. For now, installed DDFix can be updated by replacing ddfix.dll and ddfix.ini files with new ones. Just enter your resolution in ddfix.ini and that's it.
Thelvyn on 14/10/2010 at 17:53
Windows isn't paranoid enough. My Ubuntu system I can let someone use my account without worrying about it. They cant do anything to harm my system without using my password.
Windows on the other hand they could destroy it easily if I logged into my administrator account and walk away for some reason without locking it.
That's why I don't use an administrator account for normal usage though. I would rather be slightly annoyed and be safer.
voodoo47 on 14/10/2010 at 18:22
Quote Posted by DJ Riff
- Sheriff Guard Model Fix by R Soul
- Ferns Model Fix by Winter Cat
- Gas Arrow Model Fix by R Soul
- Gas Lamp Model Fix by Winter Cat
- Vine Arrow Model Fix by Winter Cat
aren't these included in (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118999) EP?
DJ Riff on 14/10/2010 at 19:37
Quote Posted by Thelvyn
Windows isn't paranoid enough.
No. It's not
safe enough, but is annoyingly paranoid at the same time. In Linux, you rarely need to log in as root permanently. In Windows, there are several operations that can't work under Run As (either it they can't be started by User at all or rights are not inherited properly). But instead of fixing these issues and making running under User with temporary Admin sessions more comfortable, they encourage users to log in as Admin by default but then put silly limitations on Admin account.
Quote:
aren't these included in EP?
Yes, they are. They don't interfere with each other though.
Zathros on 15/10/2010 at 22:32
Yes, Ok . Reran it with (in XP) right-click "Run as..." -then later it radio-button asks for Administrator+password, and it installed fine. I entered the folder name where my Thief2 was installed and all is good. Thanks DJRiff.
When I install fan missions (to a different folder), I assume I can re-run specifying that FM folder, yes?
I hope to try this on Thieves Highway - a great mission with less than great skies.
