Fidcal on 15/4/2010 at 15:37
Mmm... a search finds numerous ddfix threads and none of them look like an 'official' info thread. I'll just take a chance and look at the ini and cfg.
Fidcal on 15/4/2010 at 16:55
OK, thanks. I got the screen res working but I'm getting slower fps in Kings Story at the start on my fast PC than I do on my old slow one! Very strange.
DJ Riff on 15/4/2010 at 17:59
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I'm reluctant to run the patcher again as it seems to do a complete install and I don't want to break anything now its working. So how do I change the possible screen resolutions? And what are 'legitimate' values? Anything my monitor accepts
There's a long installation process for the first time only. If you don't choose anything additional for the second time, it shouldn't take long and shouldn't modify anything except configuration files and .exe file (which is created every time from the template according to the existing set of patches).
To change game resolution via Patcher:
1. Run the patcher, choose Thief directory
2. Choose the preset you used before or uncheck everything
3. If asked if you want to uninstall unchecked components, choose NO.
4. Set the game resolution when asked.
5. Click Finish.
If you installed Widescreen, you must use the Patcher to change the resolution, as it needs to be injected directly into the .exe file.
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I have a horrible feeling the gamesaves will never load in this update. In Dark Mod when the code was updated which was regularly then old gamesaves could never be used again.
If you made those saves on the old 1.07 version, they won't work obviously. But if you installed Premier Patch 1.18 at that time, you probably still had old versions of dark.gam and gen.osm files (they're not included in Premier Patch for some weird reason). Backup them, copy the old ones from your CD and see what happens. Consider returning the new ones once you finished the mission as some FMs may not work properly with old ones.
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I'm getting slower fps in Kings Story at the start on my fast PC than I do on my old slow one! Very strange.
Actually, DDFix greatly reduces performance as it is a wrapper. Also there were reports of horrible performance in DX6 games on some modern cards (ATI 3k-4k series AFAIR).
Fidcal on 15/4/2010 at 19:59
Mmm.. too many things for me to absorb. I'll look at this again tomorrow and start a new install without that DDfix if I can. The only reason I am doing this is to gain performance so if I can't then there is no point in doing it.
sNeaksieGarrett on 16/4/2010 at 00:00
With newer and newer hardware and software, the potential for thief to work improperly are great. However, my understanding was that ddfix 1.1.1 performed faster than ddfix 1.2.6/1.2.7 (the later ones i had been using for quite a while) - I believe this is because modern gfx cards are built for dx9, but thief needs dx6/dx7(thief 2). Someone correct me if I am off base on that. The situation may still be the case, so:
Since you are experiencing lag, Fidcal, I would suggest using an older version of ddfix if you can put up with the problems that the old ones have (you would need to use 1.1.1 or lower to have ddfix use dx9.)
The Watcher on 17/4/2010 at 09:19
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I have a horrible feeling the gamesaves will never load in this update. In Dark Mod when the code was updated which was regularly then old gamesaves could never be used again.
Not an issue in this situation - ddfix and the widescreen patch replace code in the render path, and do not go anywhere near save game code. The issues with not being able to load saves from previous versions of TDM would have been caused by significant changes to the layout or contents of save games, and either the savegame loader did not have backwards compatibility included (which would be sensible in the context), or it could not.
SiO2 on 17/4/2010 at 16:12
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Actually, DDFix greatly reduces performance as it is a wrapper. Also there were reports of horrible performance in DX6 games on some modern cards (ATI 3k-4k series AFAIR).
Hmmm. DDFix in ifself shouldn't "greatly" reduce performance. Absolutely not. If anyone has any empirical evidence of this I'd be interested in hearing it (in the DDFix thread).
Fidcal on 17/4/2010 at 20:34
Been pre-occupied with other things but thanks for feedback. If I can get this FM to work with and without DDFIX then that might indicate if it is the cause of the slowdown. The slowdown is real enough. I'm getting much slower performance at the same place in this FM on a 1GB gtx280 quad core 8GB RAM than on my old FX5900 with about 128MB and 2GB RAM. I'll start over when I get a chance.
Vae on 19/4/2010 at 09:52
Just wanted to say thanks to DJ Riff...:thumb:...this is going to help a lot of taffers...:D
