Lady Taffer on 31/1/2006 at 00:18
Wow, that's pretty cool. The arm looks like there's something wrong with it, however. .like it's too small for him. . .but otherwise it's really nice! Very moody and atmospheric. :D
Fingernail on 31/1/2006 at 21:19
too small? try "perspective"
I love it.
Spitter on 31/1/2006 at 21:28
It's brilliant enough to make me post here!
Edit: I think the arm is just fine.
Mortal Monkey on 31/1/2006 at 22:07
+10 Massive Bonus Points
Lady Taffer on 31/1/2006 at 22:30
Quote:
too small? try "perspective"
The perspective isn't working. It's still too small. But that's really the only thing wrong with it!
Fingernail on 1/2/2006 at 18:46
You're obviously "misreading" the picture. The guard stands with his upper-arm at 90 degrees to you (his upper arm being hidden by his body), and his forearm bent out in the distance, which is the part that you see.
Consequently, as you are only seeing his forearm and it is approximately the length of his upper arm away from his shoulder, it looks smaller.
Gingerbread Man on 1/2/2006 at 19:50
The picture's good. The perspective IS wrong.
With the light hitting the upper arm like that and the forward angle of the arm in general, the impression is that the right arm is detached and actually hovering a good foot or two to the right of his torso. For that perspective to be correct, that guard would either have to have a deformed / atrophied arm, a detached arm, or a tiny arm coming out of his right pectoral muscle. Also the lack of apparent foreshortening in the arm itself contributes to the perpective issue.
There are three ways I can see to fix this:
1) place the arm lower (but you'd have to redo the upper arm / bicep so that it didn't look like he had an arm growing out of his hip)
2) move the arm back more so that it was clearly being held nearly flush with the chest (but that would make it nearly invisible)
3) greatly increase the shadow on the upper arm to reinforce the idea of depth
Clearly #3 is the easiest, while probably not the most correct.
Lady Taffer on 1/2/2006 at 21:28
If I can add one more thing .. .put a bit more light and midtones on the thumb. At first I thought that right hand was a left hand until I looked at it hard.
Hewer on 1/2/2006 at 21:56
There is a light source coming from the front, so showing a bit of the chest, and lower bicep area would help give it the illusion of depth. So, you'd depict the chest in front of the upper arm, then the upper arm/bicep in front of the forearm. Just showing a bit of light hitting a chest-plate or something, then a little on some wrinkles in the crook of the elbow area would do it I think. Not a lot, mind you- you don't want to over-work it.
Although the anatomy is off, the forshortening is all right as it is but it's depicted in a way that you have to look twice and figure it out, and if you have to do that, then in practice it doesn't work. Except to your mom, or somebody who wants it to work for your sake.
Great atmosphere though, nice and subtle. Overall- good job. :thumb:
And Episkopos has my vote for the best little thief ever drawn. :cool:
redface on 1/2/2006 at 22:06
Can we move on please ? :sweat:
that arm is evil, I swear it forced me to paint it like that even though I knew it was wrong
