T2FM: Saturnine's Rose Cottage (10-31-09)

A.Stahl on 10/9/2020 at 15:18

Can someone tell me how to open the safe (in the bedroom with a lamp above it and 8 levers beneath)?
I have a code from board with automatic moving cursor 643 but it doesn't look like code from safe...

A.Stahl on 10/9/2020 at 15:51

Why! Why the answer is realizing by itself after a few minutes after the question was asked? That is sick.

For those who have the same problem with opening the safe: (put all levers to the lower position and switch only those according to the 3 digit code)

A.Stahl on 11/9/2020 at 16:55

What? You want me to force ALL those ghosts in the puddle? Nah, I won't do that. 2 was already boring. I quit.

P.S. Visually FM is incredibly cool.

tone_lord on 20/9/2020 at 02:59

Played this back in the day (when I posted under a different name, though not on this thread, apparently).

Just replayed it.

Gorgeous, well-designed mission. Great atmosphere.
I remembered very little so it was like it was new to me.

Kudos to the great minds behind it.

servant killer on 1/1/2021 at 03:41

I'm coming back to T2 fan missions for the first time in years and wanted to start with this one. It's the first time I'm using T2Fix and FMSel.

Rose Cottage loads up for me fine, but when the mission starts, it starts showing text on the screen that appears to be subtitles for Garret's dialogue from the first mission of the original Thief 2 game. Stuff about Basso, pickpocketing guards, etc. It keeps loading the same three or four lines of text over and over again. I tried loading up some other missions, and they don't have this problem.

Anyone know how to resolve this? I'd really like to try this mission.

Stingm on 1/1/2021 at 04:06

Make sure you have the latest t2fix installed and are using a new fan mission loader. An example would be angelloader. If this don't help then give us more information on what you are doing. Try not to use any mods as well. Someone else will be along with more help.

baeuchlein on 4/1/2021 at 01:48

The reason for the subtitles being displayed is the strange setup of the environmental sounds in the mission, and the game's inability to understand this. These sounds, e.g., wind sounds, are placed in files like Snd\Garrett\gar0111.ogg. The .ogg at the end does not matter to the game, and the folders above "Snd" don't matter either. In the original game, sounds like Snd\Garrett\gar0111.wav contain comments made by Garrett.

When "Rose Cottage" was created, about eleven years ago, there was neither a NewDark, nor was there anyone using NewDark's ability to display subtitles in order to show subtitles for Garrett's comments. This has changed since then. Unfortunately, NewDark now confuses the sound files of "Rose Cottage" with similarly named ones from "Thief 2" (at least when looking for subtitles). And if the player has installed the thief 2 subtitles, which can be done with T2Fix, these subtitles will usually be switched on, and NewDark will write the subtitle for Thief 2's Snd\Garrett\gar0111.wav on the screen when it plays Snd/Garrett/gar0111.ogg on the computer's speakers. Another mission where this happens is "Les Paolis" (near the canal), by the way, and I would not be surprised if players will find other missions, especially older ones, where this happens.

Unfortunately, most of the ways to disable these unwanted subtitles have a drawback. A mission author could use "empty" subtitles (which display an "empty string" on screen - not to be confused with text that contains just a blank/space!) for all of the sounds that have a name like one of the original game's sound files. However, the author of "Rose Cottage" has stopped making missions, as far as I know, so he won't do that. Would be a tedious task anyway, depending on how many sound files are present in a mission.

A mission author could also try an FM.CFG file with the line enable_subtitles 0 (that's the number zero, not the letter "O"). This would disable subtitles if they are enabled in the cam_ext.cfg file. If the subtitles are enabled in user.cfg instead, the FM.CFG trick would not work, since user.cfg overrides FM.CFG and cam_ext.cfg. And once again, the author of "Rose Cottage" will most likely not do it anyway.

Thus, the player must do something. First option: (S)He can look for a line saying enable_subtitles (without any zero at the end) in cam_ext.cfg and user.cfg. If the line is found, the player can place a semicolon (;) before the line, which disables subtitles. If the player wishes to turn on subtitles again, (s)he can remove that semicolon again. Unless you have severe problems using a text editor, this seems to be the most convenient way to solve this problem. If you play another FM which has subtitles, however, they are usually turned off by this as well.

Second option: Either don't install the Thief 2 subtitles, or delete/rename the folder with the subtitles in it, at least while playing "Rose Cottage". The folder is called "subtitles" and placed in the game's main folder. Rename it to "pubtitles" or whatever you like, and the game should not display these subtitles again.

Take your pick, then.

maxigaz on 31/1/2022 at 13:40

I finished this FM recently with NewDark 1.27 and I found an issue: I completed both mandatory objectives but the Mission Complete screen doesn't trigger when I go back to the entrance. (I didn't finish the optional objective with the cards.) Has anyone come across this before?

fortuni on 31/1/2022 at 16:40

Oops! Can confirm that mission doesn't finish (on expert at least) unless you also complete the tarot card quest. Will get fixed.

fortuni on 1/2/2022 at 11:48

Important dml courtesy Glypher as mission does not finish in Newdark if you haven't found all of the tarot cards.

Fixes:
- goal 2 (the goal is now optional, as it should be)
- goal 3 (the goal is now irreversible)
- minor fixes

Code:

DML1
//T2 FM: Rose Cottage by David Tonkinson (Saturnine) / Fixes: miss22.mis.dml

//mantling
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{
}
+ObjProp 129 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 907 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 941 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 968 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 969 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 976 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 979 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 980 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 981 "PhysCanMant"
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}
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+ObjProp 1150 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 2053 "PhysCanMant"
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}
+ObjProp 2417 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 2419 "PhysCanMant"
{
}
+ObjProp 2420 "PhysCanMant"
{
}

//goals
+ObjProp 705 "DiffTurnOn"
{
"quest var values" 0, 1, 2
}
+ObjProp 705 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapSetQVar
}
+ObjProp 705 "TrapQVar"
{
"" =1:goal_optional_2
}
+ObjProp 824 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapOn="FrobWorldEnd"; NVRelayTrapDelay=200
}
ObjProp 824 "Scripts"
{
"Script 1" NVRelayTrap
}
+ObjProp 1095 "NoDrop"
{
"" true
}

//mortician's note
+ObjProp 318 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRelayTrapOn="Contained"; NVRelayTrapDelay=200; NVRelayTrapTOn="InitialSelect"; NVRelayTrapTDest="[Me]"; NVRelayTrapCount=1; NVSelectTrapOn="InitialSelect"; NVSelectTrapItem="[Me]"
}
+ObjProp 318 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRelayTrap
"Script 1" NVSelectTrap
}

//quest items
+ObjProp 736 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRemovePropertyTrapProp="FrobInfo"
}
-ObjProp 736 "FrobInfo"
+ObjProp 736 "FrobInfo"
{
}
-ObjProp 736 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 736 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRemovePropertyTrap
}
+Link 974 736 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 974 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrigDoorOpen
}
+ObjProp 990 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 1579 "StackCount"
{
}
+ObjProp 1579 "NoDrop"
{
"" true
}
+Link 1864 3262 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 1864 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrigDoorOpen
}
+ObjProp 3262 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVRemovePropertyTrapProp="FrobInfo"
}
-ObjProp 3262 "FrobInfo"
+ObjProp 3262 "FrobInfo"
{
}
-ObjProp 3262 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3262 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVRemovePropertyTrap
}

//doors
Create -5784 "Blocker"
{
+ObjProp "Position"
{
"Location" -135.5, -138.5, -40
"Heading" c000
}
-ObjProp "PhysType"
+ObjProp "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
+ObjProp "RenderType"
{
"" Not Rendered
}
+ObjProp "Material Tags"
{
"1: Tags" ""
}
}
+ObjProp 220 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVMetaTrapMeta="FrobInert"; NVMetaTrapTarget=217
}
+Link 220 1019 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 220 "TrapFlags"
{
"" Invert
}
+ObjProp 220 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" TrapRelay
"Script 1" NVMetaTrap
}
+ObjProp 757 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVDeleteTrap
"Don't Inherit" true
}
+Link 757 "Blocker" "ControlDevice"
{
}
+Link 916 220 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+Link 916 309 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+Link 916 757 "ControlDevice"
{
}
+ObjProp 1019 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVMetaTrapMeta="FrobInert"
}
ObjProp 1019 "PickDist"
{
"" 2.00
}
+ObjProp 1019 "Scripts"
{
"Script 0" NVMetaTrap
}
ObjProp 1019 "StTweqJoints"
{
"AnimS" On
}
ObjProp 1041 "RotDoor"
{
"Open Angle" 88
}
ObjProp 1590 "AI_Converation"
{
"Conversation: Action 0" Frob object(Target Object,With Object)
" Argument 1" 1325
" Argument 2" ""
" Argument 3" ""
"Conversation: Action 1" Wait(Time(ms),Motion Tags)
" Argument 1"[1] 2000
" Argument 2"[1] ""
" Argument 3"[1] ""
" Argument 1"[2] 93
"Conversation: Action 3" Frob object(Target Object,With Object)
" Argument 1"[3] 1464
"Conversation: Action 4" Nothing()
" Argument 1"[4] ""
"Conversation: Action 5" Nothing()
" Argument 1"[5] ""
"Actor"[9] Unused
"Conversation: Action 3"[1] Nothing()
" Argument 1"[9] ""
" Argument 2"[9] ""
" Argument 3"[9] ""
}
+ObjProp 1590 "DesignNote"
{
"" NVMetaTrapMeta="FrobInert"; NVMetaTrapTarget=217; NVMetaTrapCount=1
}
ObjProp 1590 "Scripts"
{
"Script 1" NVMetaTrap
}
-ObjProp 2634 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 2634 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 2640 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 2640 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}

//incorrect physdims
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+ObjProp 1313 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 1320 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 1320 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
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+ObjProp 2175 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
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+ObjProp 2694 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 2718 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 2718 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 3393 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3393 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 3401 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3401 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 3406 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3406 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 3424 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3424 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 3425 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3425 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}
-ObjProp 3433 "PhysType"
+ObjProp 3433 "PhysType"
{
"Type" OBB
}

//invalid scaling
-ObjProp 1305 "Scale"
-ObjProp 1963 "Scale"

//cemetery key
-ObjProp 2517 "PhysType"
ObjProp 2517 "Position"
{
"Location" -138.75, -187.15, -88.5
}