Master of Dromed on 9/5/2020 at 18:41
Quote Posted by Marbrien
There's an unpickable metal door in the Mages' hiedout, at which Garret says "I need to find a key for this". I have spent some time looking but can't find it. Where is it please?
Hello Marbrien! In that
room is kept the mages treasury so it's a room full of loot. You can find the key
in the 3 rd section of the mages hideout (there are 3 sections with 2 stone bridges in between). So you can
find the key in the last section in a locked room which is lockpickabe. The
key is on the table in that room next to a scroll with a story.
Please submit feedback after you finish this mission. Write a few words here on this topic about what are your impressions about this mission. Thank you and have fun!
Varen on 9/5/2020 at 22:38
I would play it but do you need to reinstall T2 or New Dark can be disabled someway ?
Master of Dromed on 9/5/2020 at 22:51
Quote Posted by Varen
I would play it but do you need to reinstall T2 or New Dark can be disabled someway ?
You can play in New Dark without a map.. anyway it's an outdoor mission map is not that important. Still if you want the full experience i recommend installing Thief 2 1.18
frobbin hood on 10/5/2020 at 12:13
Oh dear! Think I'm going to have to give up on this one. It's just a bewildering maze and I'm fed up of going round in circles.
I'm afraid the map isn't much help to me. I think I've found the Hammerite Village (even that is a maze with no logical layout) and the Pagan village, but I can't tell the difference between the mine and the caves.
No sign of the Mage or Cityareas.
Shame, I can see a lot of work has gone into this.:(
Galaer on 10/5/2020 at 15:06
Quote Posted by frobbin hood
Oh dear! Think I'm going to have to give up on this one. It's just a bewildering maze and I'm fed up of going round in circles.
I'm afraid the map isn't much help to me. I think I've found the
Hammerite Village (even that is a maze with no logical layout) and the
Pagan village, but I can't tell the difference between the mine and the caves.
No sign of the
Mage or Cityareas.
Shame, I can see a lot of work has gone into this.:(
Don't give up. There is no city in this mission. Mine is at the very beginning of the mission nad looks like mine, cave is later and looks like cave. These places look really different. As for
Mage Hideout - it's somewhere in the caves - there is flooded part of it. Don't mistake it with flooded part of mine - it's 2 different areas. You will need to use breath potion to survive, then cross burrick cave and you will enter Mage Hideout.
Master of Dromed on 10/5/2020 at 15:09
Quote Posted by frobbin hood
Oh dear! Think I'm going to have to give up on this one. It's just a bewildering maze and I'm fed up of going round in circles.
I'm afraid the map isn't much help to me. I think I've found the
Hammerite Village (even that is a maze with no logical layout) and the
Pagan village, but I can't tell the difference between the mine and the caves.
No sign of the
Mage or Cityareas.
Shame, I can see a lot of work has gone into this.:(
Don't be afraid to explore, this is a big mission like the original ones in Thief the Dark Project and Thief 2 The Metal Age. Why in such a hurry? You can play one hour save and resume tomorrow. You played Down in the Bonehoard? That mission has a symbolic map too, The Lost City the same. Many of the original thief missions are build like mazes, Garrett need space. That's not a reason to give up:)
The mines are made of coal like the ones in Cragscleft Prison, the caves are made of gray stone :) Why you said you can't tell the difference? There is no city in this mission.. pay attention to the story. There's no reason to be rude..
Yandros on 10/5/2020 at 16:15
Quote Posted by Master of Dromed
pay attention to the story. There's no reason to be rude..
Unless I missed something, I don't see anything rude in frobbin hood's post. Some players are going to struggle with a mission for reasons that don't seem to make sense to you as the author, but you you have to realize that your perspective is not objective because being your creation, you know your mission inside and out. But players don't, and when they have trouble understanding clues, texts or story, don't blame them - it is completely normal for these things to happen, and you can take their comments as feedback on ways to potentially improve how your story, objectives and clues are conveyed through the texts and in other ways, both in future missions and even in the current mission if you choose to do an update.
Master of Dromed on 10/5/2020 at 16:34
Quote Posted by Yandros
Unless I missed something, I don't see anything rude in frobbin hood's post. Some players are going to struggle with a mission for reasons that don't seem to make sense to you as the author, but you you have to realize that your perspective is not objective because being your creation, you know your mission inside and out. But players don't, and when they have trouble understanding clues, texts or story, don't blame them - it is completely normal for these things to happen, and you can take their comments as feedback on ways to potentially improve how your story, objectives and clues are conveyed through the texts and in other ways, both in future missions and even in the current mission if you choose to do an update.
No problem, i am open to critique :) I understand his feeling of frustration, he probably lost a lot of time with this..that happened to me too when i played fan missions. Still i don't understand why i should feel ashamed? That is a pretty harsh word..
Yandros on 10/5/2020 at 18:15
I'll let him speak for himself, but when "Shame" is used like that it most often means "It's a pity, I would like to have finished it" rather than "You should feel ashamed for having made this".
Master of Dromed on 10/5/2020 at 18:21
Quote Posted by Yandros
I'll let him speak for himself, but when "Shame" is used like that it most often means "It's a pity, I would like to have finished it" rather than "You should feel ashamed for having made this".
Then it's my bad. Since i'm not an english speaker my english is not very good. I misunderstood his words.