T2 Multiplayer Beta Released

demagogue on 9/9/2014 at 06:14

Every time I see this thread up I get excited there's some new development, an (most) every time, alas, it ends up being troubleshooting.

On the bright side, once you do get it working you can usually just copy-paste the install from then on.

GORT on 9/9/2014 at 12:25

Quote Posted by demagogue

Every time I see this thread up I get excited there's some new development, an (most) every time, alas, it ends up being troubleshooting.

Same here. I have some good ideas for FMs that would use this feature. Do you think we make a poll to see how many people would want the Multiplayer function to be in NewDark? I mean yeah I can make FMs using v1.18, but the time it takes to make them on that version versus NewDark is like day and night. OldDark can have a mission that will take a half an hour just to optimize. And with NewDark, that same mission would just take less than 2 minutes to optimize.

Oh well. I guess I could get one of my older PCs to be set for making FMs for v1.18... :p

Dood on 10/9/2014 at 16:24

Quote Posted by sNeaksieGarrett

It's been a long time since I've gone through the process, but from what I recall, you first need to copy the thief2.exe from the multiplayer patch and then you either have to use ddfix gui to apply ddfix to thief 2, or use a hex editor to add the proper line in the exe.

Beyond that, the only thing I can suggest is check the settings for ddfix, perhaps try some compatibility options (like say, make thief 2 shortcut run in windows xp compatibility)...

And yeah, it certainly wouldn't hurt if you posted your specs here.

Well, there goes.

Inline Image:

http://i.imgur.com/aTe4Bk3.png

I've tried using a hex editor for ddfix, apparently ddfixgui wasn't willing to work either.
After installing T2MP it would always ask me for MSVCP71.dll, which I'd just take off the internet. I've tried setting compatibility mode to XP SP2 and running it as admin, no dice.
There's also this I noticed:

Inline Image:

http://i.imgur.com/ZJeUFMM.png

Any ideas?

Dood on 13/9/2014 at 21:24

Quote Posted by Dood

Well, there goes.
*huge image goes here*

*desperate nonsense goes here*
There's also this I noticed:
*another moderately large sized image goes here*
Any ideas?

I've randomly tried it again, and it just seems to work. Just to make sure, if it says connected to the global server, that must mean it's up, right?

On a second note, both me and my friend are having this:

Inline Image:

http://i.imgur.com/1KLba5j.png
It looks messed up and runs for 1 to 3 seconds before crashing.

sNeaksieGarrett on 13/9/2014 at 23:57

That's likely because you've set an incorrect resolution that thief doesn't like. (That or you have a mismatch of screen resolutions between cam.cfg and ddfix.ini)

Check to make sure that in both cam.cfg and ddfix.ini that your screen resolutions match and aren't something that ddfix or thief doesn't support. What screen res did you use? maybe I can determine if that's the issue.

Also, what compat settings did you put on thief2.exe?

Dood on 15/9/2014 at 14:00

Quote Posted by sNeaksieGarrett

It's 800x600, my monitor confirms it
Apparently there's only "640x480x16" on the video options. I checked the cfg and ini, ddfix won't support 640x480. Should I dare try 1920x1080?
Funnily enough, didn't use any compatibility settings, I'm not sure I need them, but using XP SP2 will still crash it.

sNeaksieGarrett on 16/9/2014 at 01:13

That's right, especially with ddfix (now that you mention it) cannot display 640x480. Sounds like your game is trying to run that resolution. Can you post the contents of both your ddfix.ini and cam.cfg here please? (use the "

Code:

" thing to make your post more manageable.)

You can try setting your resolution in both to 1280 by 720, at least as an initial test. I don't remember what resolutions ddfix supports, you'd have to check the documentation. I know up until a certain point ddfix only supported a limited number of resolutions and IIRC required you to also use the "weidu" dark widescreen patch someone made in order to get certain widescreen resolutions. I recall having to use this on my laptop a long time ago.

voodoo47 on 16/9/2014 at 10:48

800*600 is the minimum, max is whatever DX6 supports (1920*1200 for all practical purposes).

Dood on 16/9/2014 at 13:43

Quote Posted by sNeaksieGarrett

Code:

[Main]
;Screen resolution
;Must be 800x600 or greater
gWidth=1280
gHeight=720

;Refresh rate. 0 is default, anything else to override.
RefreshRate=0

;Set to 1 to fix the duel core related crash
MultiCoreFix=1

;Set to 1 to automatically register lgvid.ax each time thief is started up
VideoFix=0

;This can be set to zero to get a more accurate z-buffer
;Doesn't usually make a noticable difference to picture quality
UseCompatibleZBuffer=1

;Turns on the 32 bit texture loader and adds support for some unsupported screen resolutions
;Will cause a crash if used with an unsupported exe
; 0 - Disable
; 1 - Determine exe automatically
; 2 - Thief 2 v1.18
Thief2Extensions=1

;Set to 1 to disable the windows keys while thief is running
DisableWindowsKey=0

;Set to 1 to enable anisotropic filtering
AnisotropicFiltering=0

;If you want to share overriden textures between thief installations, uncomment the next line
;It should contain the absolute path to the equivilent of \res\ddfix, including the trailing \
;TexturePath=C:\Games\Thief2\res\ddfix\

;XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
;XX Compatibility settings XX
;XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

;Changes the way direct writes to the frontbuffer are handled
;SS2 players should set these options to '2' and '0xf81f' respectively
;Thief 2 players with corrupted in game text should use '2' and '0x0000'
;Players who experience slowdown with UseSysMemOverlay=2 should set both options to 0
UseSysMemOverlay=2
OverlayColourKey=0xf81f

Code:

; $Header: r:/t2repos/thief2/src/cam.cfg,v 1.24 2000/03/08 11:43:50 adurant Exp $

; hey, which game is this
game dark

; general configs
include_user_cfg user.cfg
editor_include_dromed_cfg dromed.cfg

; game specific paths/configs
dark_include_install_cfg darkinst.cfg
shock_include_install_cfg install.cfg

; set trait cache to include concretes
trait_cache_flags 2

no_network

sfx_vol_music -474
fogging 0
enhanced_sky 1
render_weather 1
movie_volume_factor 0.7

sfx_vol_3d 0
skip_intro
sfx_device 1
game_screen_depth 16
gamma 1.
game_hardware 1
sfx_vol_2d 0
game_screen_flags 13
game_screen_size 1280 720
sfx_channels 12
ambient_volume 0
game_full_screen 1
master_volume 0
safe_texture_manager
d3d_driver_index 0

Changed the values to try going 720p, and I suppose you're talking about (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121449) this patch? It doesn't work, suppose I'll just paste this. I tried tricking it by renaming the exe I modified in hex to use ddfix to thief2.exe

Code:

C:\thief_2>widescreen\WeiDU.exe --nogame widescreen\DarkWidescreen.tp2
[widescreen\WeiDU.exe] WeiDU version 21000
[widescreen\WeiDU.exe] Using scripting style "BG2"

Would you like to display the readme? [Y]es [N]o
n

Installing [Widescreen Mod for Dark Engine Games v6r3]

Please enter your horizontal resolution. It should be a number, >= 640.
1280

Please enter your vertical resolution. It should be a number, >= 480.
720

This mod automatically adjusts your field of view for the new resolution.

You can further modify it by entering a percentage (e.g. 200 doubles the fov).

If you don't know exactly what this means please enter 100.
100

1280 x 720 , 100% field of view

Are you sure? Y/N
y

shock2.exe not found, skipping...

thief.exe not found, skipping...
Copying and patching 1 file ...

thief2.exe (2662400 bytes) not found, but found 2662445 bytes, skipping...
Copying and patching 1 file ...

Value 640 found in executable thief2.exe at 2589052, expected 320
FAILURE:
Incorrect value
Stopping installation because of error.
ERROR: [thief2.exe] -> [thief2.exe] Patching Failed (COPY) (Failure("Incorrect v
alue"))
Stopping installation because of error.
Stopping installation because of error.
Stopping installation because of error.

ERROR Installing [Widescreen Mod for Dark Engine Games v6r3], rolling back to pr
evious state
Will uninstall 1 files for [widescreen\DarkWidescreen.tp2] component 0.
Restoring backed-up [widescreen\backup/0/thief2.exe]
Uninstalled 1 files for [widescreen\DarkWidescreen.tp2] component 0.
ERROR: Failure("Incorrect value")
Saving This Log:

NOT INSTALLED DUE TO ERRORS Widescreen Mod for Dark Engine Games v6r3

Press ENTER to exit.

Why exactly is bringing the T2MP mod to the 21st century impossible anyway? If I recall correctly, the author released the source code as well, didn't he? Not that I wouldn't appreciate the troubleshooting intention.

demagogue on 17/9/2014 at 10:30

I apparently got a confirmed request to him on it, and it's come up in most of his threads. So he (they?) knows about it, I'm sure.

And it's a legit feature that's a huge step over some of the other features he's worked on, so it kind of sells itself IMO.

I imagine he might have looked at it, but it's a mountain of work and there's big obstacles in the way that we don't appreciate, which is something I've seen a lot for Darkmod. (Although sometimes what looks like an impenetrable wall at first turns out to be not-so-hard to cross after all, like soft shadows in TDM.)

The other issue is it's a closed project, so it's not like someone that might be interested could work just on it... Not even on the side since we can't get the Raven's source either.

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