Galaer on 31/10/2020 at 14:35
No, no, no. Example you are mentioning is completely different story. Nobody forces you to put certain music or textures into your missions, nobody mentions how to design them. You have complete freedom. What people complains is availabilty of this mission. This loot objective is your caprice that scares people away. And I'm aware that there are less popular missions that only small group of players will enjoy. For example "kill them all missions" like Playground of Doom. I don't like it, but only because it's not my cup of tea. But if you create standard Thief mission, then it's very frustrating that you put super high loot objective.
So let's look at your example. Imagine that this Uwe Schimdt aka Atom decided to sell his music only in one shop near his home. You can't buy it anywhere else, you can't listen it in the internet. You must ride to a different his town, buy it and return home. No matter in what country you live. How about putting some advertisements between musics? He can do that too. Of course this things don't happen, because he's not only great artist, but also smart artist. Even though he's creating music for himself, he's also take3s into account his audience. You don't. This example may not be realistic, but it perfectly visualize this problem with your missions. It has nothing to do with music, design, aesthetics and creativity. Absolutely nothing. It's just your caprice, which for other people is just annoyance.
Samantha1 on 31/10/2020 at 15:28
Haha cool picture. Looking forward to your next mission, cardia! :cheeky: hopefully another city based mission with a cool story, lots of rope arrowing and without the undead.... nah just kidding, I´m just adding my two cents xD
Cardia on 31/10/2020 at 15:31
I´m really sorry for the trouble i made you go through in some of the bad features of my mission , allow me to compensate this situation by offering you a beautiful relaxing song :
[video=youtube_share;_XYaxrywqLs]https://youtu.be/_XYaxrywqLs[/video]
Galaer on 31/10/2020 at 15:38
I don't know what to think. From one side you tell that you will take that into account, but from the other side you put a picture of a man that in thought he's in different world, a man that completely ignores what other say.
Loot objective isn't the only problem that it's high. In some of your missions loot objective isn't even needed and just get in the way what you created. The good example is Melancholy in Porto. This mission just has amazing atmosphere and graphic, but in order to finish it legitly player is forced to completely ignore what you crafted for so long and very carefully search for loot.
Playground of Doom - your killing style mission. Killed everyone, took every loot I could find and still I'm not even close to Normal difficulty loot requirement. And then a thought: "why there is loot objective in killing mission? what does that add?". And answer "Absolutely nothing".
Gift - puzzle mission with random loot objective. Why? If this would be a reward for solving puzzles, I would understand. But no, loot objective and Keeper Medallion are located in random location. How can I get excited by finding loot in completely random spot. For me that's just a bullshit.
If you ignore loot objective and every other objectives, then suddenly you will notice that missions are very well designed. Finally you allow people to feel the atmosphere you built so carefully. We are allowed to feel extasy when playing your mission. But loot objective destroys completely this vision that you created, this combination of graphic, music and design you wanted to show so proudly. So instead of feeling extasy, people feel miserable.
Cardia on 31/10/2020 at 16:30
Galaer you left me speechless , i don't know what to answer for now, i need time to process and reflect about everything you told me.
Samantha1 on 31/10/2020 at 16:37
Galaer, you can give it a rest now, right? We already mentioned all the negative points and Pedro said he´s going to take it into account in his next mission. That´s the best outcome you can have, cause it shows that he is thinking about it :)
And that he posts a picture of a man he "worships" has nothing to do with it. It´s only natural to want to share things you like.
Galaer on 31/10/2020 at 16:52
Sorry, to be honest I was also wondering if I should continue this discussion or not.
Tobias on 5/4/2021 at 01:55
Cant find enough loot in mission 1. Oh well it looked to be a good FM too :(