T2 Mission : "Les Paolis" updated to V. 1.5 (updated in 13-04-2025) - by Cardia
Cardia on 1/7/2019 at 20:48
Supremcee i don't agree with every negative remark, and if there's one thing i love most in playing other author's missions is to loot and explore everything. We are all different, i get disappointed when loot goal becomes optional or doesn't exit at all. i can try to adapt my missions at a certain point to public taste but not at 100%, i like to have the freedom to do the thing the way i enjoy. If i am to follow every person request i will end up not doing 50 % of what i would like to do. And please i don't like to be addressed as "dude".
Supremcee on 1/7/2019 at 21:04
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Supremcee i don't agree with every negative remark, and if there's one thing i love most in playing other author's missions is to loot and explore everything. We are all different, i get disappointed when loot goal becomes optional or doesn't exit at all. i can try to adapt my missions at a certain point to public taste but not at 100%, i like to have the freedom to do the thing the way i enjoy. If i am to follow every person request i will end up not doing 50 % of what i would like to do. And please i don't like to be addressed as "dude".
ok, i apologize for the dude....in english this may seem to harsh.
I think you are totally right about your own style and what you prefer but still I have the feeling you don't seem to understand what I'm really talking about. Throughout this thread I gave you different specific examples, gameplaywise and technical things that people mention, some tell you how you could solve this and next time there are the same issues. maybe you don't want to see it, IDK.
but your argument that you create what you enjoy - in this case looting - i can't see that deleting/not having the loot (in future missions) goal instead of putting more thought into that in first place backs your argument.
You don't have to agree with every complaint, thats totally true. But in some cases like framerate drops, crashes etc. (just one of the examples) you seem to ignore. i don't think that you would say "i like lagging so i create missions that lag" - and i just looked it up, the last missions that crashed because of real bad lags and optimization have been yours...and people already told you how to avoid those lag problems....but hey, i don't want to be the angry guy here, as the others I appreciate what you do, I don't want to take the fun out for you and would like to see you improve, but since you don't seem to want that, that's your thing and your totally right with that. Thanks for replying so fast and good luck with your next project
Cardia on 1/7/2019 at 21:49
Thank you for your feedback Supremcee :) and for your care to help me improve things. None of my betatesters or i suffered any lags or bad framerates. The crash in the second mission happens if you come directly from the first mission without exiting thief 2. Otherwise if you follow the instructions i gave in the first post you won't have any crashes. I´m taking in account some of the last members suggestions, and will apply them in the next update within an acceptable measure.
Supremcee on 1/7/2019 at 21:56
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Thank you for your feedback Supremcee :) and for your care to help me improve things. None of my betatesters or i suffered any lags or bad framerates. The crash in the second mission happens if you come directly from the first mission without exiting thief 2. Otherwise if you follow the instructions i gave in the first post you won't have any crashes. I´m taking in account some of the last members suggestions, and will apply them in the next update within an acceptable measure.
always nice to have a friendly outcome :) thank you for the discussion, and you can be sure I'm looking forward to your next project, and I will play it with all we talked about in mind :cheeky:
but one thing, the game already crashed in mission 1 for me, and except your missions I never had issues with that by framedrop...but i mentioned it before
Cardia on 1/7/2019 at 22:34
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always nice to have a friendly outcome :) thank you for the discussion, and you can be sure I'm looking forward to your next project, and I will play it with all we talked about in mind :cheeky:
but one thing, the game already crashed in mission 1 for me, and except your missions I never had issues with that by framedrop...but i mentioned it before
My next project is practically a thief 1/Gold teamproject led by Scarykitties with his rules, i hope to be able create an interesting map.
A crash in the first mission? that's new to me. Maybe it's time to upgrade a few things in your CPU ? :)
Sure one of the most gratifying things for me and probably for other authors after all the hard work and time you have invested in your work is to know it is recognized and well acclaimed by the people/players. It makes me feel good to know my work and efforts meant something to someone, i confess i love positive compliments, but at the same time i can't make missions 100% in function of what people like and want because then i´m creating things only for the others and not entirely for me. i like the liberty to use a certain music, to give a politic or religious message, a story that has not action or suspence but that describes an aspect of reality, like a documentary or a dramatic movie. the kind of scenario, ambient... among other things.
Supremcee on 1/7/2019 at 23:12
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A crash in the first mission? that's new to me. Maybe it's time to upgrade a few things in your CPU ? :)
and this is the ultimate answer for me from you - you don't seem to see what people tell you - I said that it ONLY happens in YOUR missions and you answer it hast to be MY PC - I run Thief on HD witch everything high no matter which mission and game it's just in your missions - i play modern graphic beasts on highest settings with 60fps so, please - and the only FM threads that mention framedrops to unplayability are yours....I'm talking to a wall here...you are in a tunnel with no exits...go on riding ......
downwinder on 1/7/2019 at 23:44
i have a walmart junk 150$ tower and both missions ran fine over all for me and 0 crashes,sometime a crash can randomly happen,save often
i want to thank cardia for a cool set of missions,i loved the conversations of npc's also like listen to people argue behind a door,there is one couple that go insane,i am sure i heard something break :P so much fun,also yes i found cat sound on first mission along with dog :),made the mission so much better
ValmontPhl on 2/7/2019 at 00:17
Cardia, you keep doing you. You have sufficiently explained that your goal is to make FMs that you like, not necessarily missions other people like and good for you. The rest of us, as grateful as we are for all authors, can choose to play or not play any specific FM. I see a Cardia release and I know what to expect without delusion, feeling the need to air frustration at you until you see things my way.
Unna gets the Zen Trophy with "I found 5000 and jumped to the next mission" (I found about 11k and jumped to the next mission)
Keep it up :thumb:
radogoal on 2/7/2019 at 04:19
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Yes, the R is from Renaud Cocco. do you have new mantle enable?
What do you man with mantle?
Galaer on 2/7/2019 at 07:35
Mission 2. In what part of this mission can I find Tree God Mask? That's the only thing I need.