Balboa on 12/6/2025 at 17:54
Quote Posted by Unkillable Cat
Also, can the bakery be entered, or is it just for show?
Just for show.
Balboa on 12/6/2025 at 17:56
Hammer shrines:
Oak Hollow
1. In the attic of the Last Drop Public House
2. In the top platform of a barn, next to the LDPH
3. In a cave in the Grotto, next to the psychic
4. In the basement of a ruined house with a hole in the roof
5. Behind an attic window next to a bakery
6. Behind a painting in a room with a balcony
7. Under a bed in the merchant's cook's room
Downtowne
8. Behind Karras in Sir McAllister Crom's Zen room
Vitro13 on 12/6/2025 at 18:23
Quote Posted by Balboa
Not a soft-lock although it might seem so.
So, there you are, standing in front of the infernal throne, magic missiles blazing around you.
Just a bit to your right is the highest pillar/step.
Opposite that step is a gargoyle supporting a torch.
Run to the pillar/step and jump to the gargoyle and mantle up.
Probably won't even get singed.Just don't do that again.:tsktsk:
The potential jumps seemed unlikely, but I suppose I should have at least taken a crack at it. The Isle of the Dead arrival savepoint was, frankly, less irritating than the FEWCH FEWCH FEWCH FEWCH FEWCH FEWCH of the magic missiles.
Vitro13 on 12/6/2025 at 18:25
Quote Posted by downwinder
Vitro13 i can help
if you got those names then you already got the gems of sarnoth, just walk out into the room where you got those names and click those names on placks in orderPuzzles within puzzles. Thank'ee.
Unkillable Cat on 13/6/2025 at 08:48
Quote Posted by mcmike1489
I believe I found a bug here with this mission, when I knock out a guard or a bystander. The game automatically fails the mission thinking it was a no-kill penalty. I didn't even kill the guard/bystander. You're telling me, I can't even knock out enemies with the blackjack without failing the mission? I hope whatever happened, it is a bug and needs to be addressed for a hotfix because the restriction in the objectives menu is misleading saying, no kills but didn't mention no knockouts either.
Are you within the grounds of the Last Drop Public House, i.e. the starting position? You can't touch anyone there, not even to knock them out.
If you're not,
then you have a bug on your hands.
Unkillable Cat on 13/6/2025 at 09:05
Thank you for the Hammer shrine-locations Balboa.
Regarding the last two shrines, for one players literally have a single line of pixels to work with, which explains why it's eluded everyone. For the second one the only clue we had was that "no hidden levers are needed to open it"... meaning that only the obvious lever remains.
This was some seriously good taffing... but not without a bump or two.
Marbrien on 13/6/2025 at 09:28
I didn't have the problem reported by mcmike1489, and i don't think anyone else has reported it. You are not allowed to draw weapons in the inn where you start. Otherwise the only time I failed the 'no kill' objective was when I threw an unconscious mechanist in front of the speedy subway train. But I actually managed to kill a few unblackjackable guards by crushing them under the elevator in the bank, and the FM allowed me to continue.
Balboa on 13/6/2025 at 11:00
Quote Posted by mcmike1489
I believe I found a bug here with this mission, when I knock out a guard or a bystander. The game automatically fails the mission thinking it was a no-kill penalty. I didn't even kill the guard/bystander. You're telling me, I can't even knock out enemies with the blackjack without failing the mission? I hope whatever happened, it is a bug and needs to be addressed for a hotfix because the restriction in the objectives menu is misleading saying, no kills but didn't mention no knockouts either.
You cannot knockout, attack, or otherwise upset anyone in the pub or beer garden. That is part of the first objective.
However, if you are just outside of the pub and you start a ruckus, you
might accidentally upset some of the pub patrons. That oversight will be addressed in a future release.
lordhern on 13/6/2025 at 19:36
Quote Posted by Marbrien
I didn't have the problem reported by mcmike1489, and i don't think anyone else has reported it. You are not allowed to draw weapons in the inn where you start. Otherwise the only time I failed the 'no kill' objective was when I threw an unconscious mechanist in front of the speedy subway train. But I actually managed to kill a few unblackjackable guards by crushing them under the elevator in the bank, and the FM allowed me to continue.
Elevator crushing and frog eggs don't trigger the culpable death link, heck even throwing heavy things like hammers and boulders also don't trigger the culpable death so depending what's available in a mission you could often abuse the no-kill in multiple ways.
szabikka on 15/6/2025 at 20:22
Thank you for the release Balboa! I haven't been around for some time. Tomorrow I will check out your new FM as soon as I get back home from work. Can't wait to see it!
