Unkillable Cat on 13/10/2016 at 19:37
Well, this was an entertaining romp through the City of Drunks. :) I found all the secrets (thanks for the hints) but I'm still short around 680 of the total loot count. That's a rather large amount, makes me feel like I'm missing out on a whole hidden section somewhere.
As for what I think of the FM, there's not much I can add that hasn't already been said. Well-used and placed hi-res art, great selection of sounds, and the Gallery...wow. Last time I had so much fun in a museum heist was in the fourth mission of Ruins of Originia.
The biggest flaws have also been brought up - all those sounds can become a little too much, especially since some of them are LOUDER than others, but I hear that may be addressed in an updated release. One flaw that hasn't been brought up is a personal pet peeve of mine that I call Audiolog Syndrome - readables that convey a person's thoughts, which then are directly committed to paper...even though no sane person would ever write these things in such a manner. It kinda works if people are using a dictaphone or voice mail but this is Thief, not System Shock. But since almost every Thief FM does this, it would be unfair to single out this FM for it, but I still think it needs to be mentioned.
Overall I'd say this is a strong contender for Thief 1/2 FM of the Year. Keep up the good work! :D
Purgator on 13/10/2016 at 23:03
Quote Posted by Unkillable Cat
One flaw that hasn't been brought up is a personal pet peeve of mine that I call Audiolog Syndrome - readables that convey a person's thoughts, which then are directly committed to paper...even though no sane person would ever write these things in such a manner.
Lots of sane people commit their thoughts to paper, in what I call...'Diaries'.
pukey brunster on 14/10/2016 at 02:01
Hello goldwell, and hope we can help to figure it out for you! I think Unna's suggestion about the mods is all I can come up with too. There are so many people here in these forums that are far smarter than myself, for helping with these issue though. I love building, but admit I have a lot to learn about the "guts" of the engine itself.
I hope you will keep trying though, and if I have an inspired idea will certainly let you know :idea:
Quote Posted by goldwell
I'm still left with a constantly crashing game (even after trying your save Unna), after I go near the shops if I save or load it crashes to the desktop and I don't know why :/
Judging by the sound of everyone else's posts it's all working fine, i've tried fresh installing Thief 2, i've reinstalled NewDark 1.24 and i've even switched from Dark Loader to FMSel but it still seems to be broken.
I've never had an FM crash before either so I wonder what's causing so many issues, also Unna my problem isn't always saving it also crashes when I try to reload as well.
@Pukey Brunster I have the following set in my cam_mod.ini "mod_path .\MODS\NecWtr+.\MODS\t2skies+.\MODS\EP\EPBooks+.\MODS\EP+.\MODS\NTEX+.\patchedmis"
Do you think anything in there would cause a confliction with your mission?
pukey brunster on 14/10/2016 at 02:05
Thief-outside-a-box, thank you for taking the time to write your thoughts, and for the tips ;-)
I agree that the sound has been an issue.. I'm fixing the files Fen pointed out to be 16 bit, which I am told should help. This is (clearly) not my strongest point - the more technical side, but I love a good challenge!
pukey brunster on 14/10/2016 at 02:07
Quote Posted by Marbrien
Thanks for this. I'm pretty sure I've found all these, but my secrets count is only 5. With number 5,
I put aspirin into Cartwright's cup and a morgue room opened downstairs, but with no loot in it. Is that secret 5, or did I miss something?
Check closely
the floor of the surgery room.. the severed hand ;-)pukey brunster on 14/10/2016 at 02:10
Unkillable Cat - thank you! Hopefully by next year or possibly into 2018 will have a new one. I just can't make em small it seems.. my ideas start out simple, and then Dromed takes over and possesses my brain, and the missionbeast continues to grow.. ;)
vincentlancon on 14/10/2016 at 06:27
If this is your first FM, I am blown away....this has shot up in to my top 10 FMs for sure. Keep it up!
Marbrien on 14/10/2016 at 15:04
Quote Posted by pukey brunster
Check closely
the floor of the surgery room.. the severed hand ;-)Thanks again. Finished about a 1000 short of max loot, can't think where it is as I've given the town, sewers and gallery a fairly good going over!
thief-outside-a-box on 14/10/2016 at 15:44
Audiolog - so for example the diaries where the writer is interrupted near the end, yet bothers to keep on writing as he gets torn apart by a beast or whatever:
"[...]yet whenever I hold the stone... huh? What is that sound? Who goes there? Oh my god, what is this? It's eating me! AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!"
I just made this up (poorly), but I guess this is what Unkillable Cat refers to.
I rather fly through the pages, so most of the time I don't realise/bother. What I notice is when a poor soul gets trapped/half-crushed by a cave-in with just a single flare (he then used up long ago), his sword and pen+paper. And writes a perfect (layouted) diary in pitch-black-darkness. Yet I can suspend my disbelief most of the time. :)
gnartsch on 14/10/2016 at 16:50
Just FYI - concerning crashes
I was trying to get this FM running, but it always crashed already while 'Loading the mission'.
Finally I figured out it would be a good idea to disable ALL mods (comment out everything in mod_path in cam_mod.ini).
Now the mission comes up!
Not sure if there is a culprit among those mods I have installed for quite a while already without any issues,
but since the mission seems to come with a load of custom stuff, it should be a reasonable thing to try anyway.
