trefoilknot on 16/6/2020 at 20:56
Hm, that's very odd.
In short, no the music should not change.
Regarding the other issues you've encountered, I haven't a clue. So far two players (you and one other) have experienced an issue with placing the talismans, but when I fired up the other player's save file, it worked perfectly fine for me. So it doesn't seem to be a logic bug... There must be some difference between our installs. Perhaps a dependency is missing from the .zip, but I don't believe so. It's been successfully tested on clean, no-frills installations. When you say “4th season painting,” which one are you referring to?
Are you using v1.05 (not that I would understand the issue with an earlier version)?
Samantha1 on 16/6/2020 at 21:34
Quote Posted by trefoilknot
Hm, that’s very odd.
In short, no the music should not change.
Regarding the other issues you’ve encountered, I haven’t a clue. So far two players (you and one other) have experienced an issue with placing the talismans, but when I fired up the other player’s save file, it worked perfectly fine for me. So it doesn’t seem to be a logic bug... There must be some difference between our installs. Perhaps a dependency is missing from the .zip, but I don’t believe so. It’s been successfully tested on clean, no-frills installations. When you say “
4th season painting,” which one are you referring to?
Are you using v1.05 (not that I would understand the issue with an earlier version)?
How do I recognize then if I´m in the
dreamworld and not in the real world and the other way round? Is there any other sound when I jump into the dream world? The way it jumps in front of the picture was the same as with the season painting bug and I have no way of knowing if I´m in the dream world now or not. It was the summer painting that had the bug if I recall correct. Yes I´m using v1.05. FMselector and thief patch 1.27c. Ima just send you my save, so you could perhaps check if its going the correct way?
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n_F0DPhkebKhSASdSep3UiYZ8LaQ9lBF/view?usp=sharing)
trefoilknot on 16/6/2020 at 22:10
Scroll through your inventory and see if the spectacles of extradimensional experience are equipped or unequipped. If you're inside a painting, the spectacles should become equipped. They then become unequipped if you frob the equipped spectacles in inventory.
I'll try to take a poke at your save tonight.
trefoilknot on 16/6/2020 at 22:27
Ah, interesting. Yes, there is something strange about your save. You somehow have both equipped and unequipped spectacles. That would explain all of the issues you've encountered. I just can't figure out how that would have happened. AFAIK, every time you're given one item, the other is taken away. You seem to be in between worlds...
I'll need to investigate how this happened, but it will be awhile before I'm able to get to the bottom of it (expecting our first child tomorrow!)
In the meantime, I was able to beat the mission from your save without issue. Just entering and exiting the painting in hilberts office set things back to normal, for me.
Still, I'm very curious how things ended up that way! It seems to think you're inside the painting in Hilbert's office, even though you're clearly in the main hotel building.
vfig on 16/6/2020 at 23:30
Trefoilknot, you of all people should know that ordinary logic stops applying when you start dealing with infinities. :cheeky:
trefoilknot on 17/6/2020 at 00:54
Touche!!!
Samantha, did you by any chance use the spectacles infinity times? That would explain why the engine thinks you've used them both an odd and even number of times.
But in all seriousness, I'm stumped. I double checked my setup and can't find any way to have both equipped and unequipped spectacles, simultaneously. But again, it shouldn't interfere with mission completion (and I'll try to get to the bottom of it when I have the chance).
Samantha1 on 17/6/2020 at 08:23
Quote Posted by trefoilknot
Touche!!!
Samantha, did you by any chance use the spectacles infinity times? That would explain why the engine thinks you've used them both an odd and even number of times.
But in all seriousness, I'm stumped. I double checked my setup and can't find any way to have both equipped and unequipped spectacles, simultaneously. But again, it shouldn't interfere with mission completion (and I'll try to get to the bottom of it when I have the chance).
Now I feel special :cheeky: the unequipped glasses where in my inventory after I got it from hilberts office. The first time I used them on the temple painting I had the equipped glasses in my inventory. Both at the same time. I was in the believe that that´s how it should be. Whenever I would jump I´d have several of them in my inventory. I don´t think I´ve jumped too often either, if that´s even possible :D
Sooo I guess I´ll have to wait till you can tell me what is going wrong before I can continue playing? I´ll wait then I guess. Thanks for your help! :)
trefoilknot on 17/6/2020 at 12:37
If it happened right out of the gate, the first time you used then, it sounds like an install matter. Something about S/R getting gummed up—it would explain both issues you've experienced (with the paintings and the talismans).
The .zip contains all of the necessary script files, so I'm not sure what the precise problem would be. But when I fired up your save, everything worked perfectly on all 3 of my machines (including clean install). As soon as I entered and exited one time, everything was back to normal and proceeded as expected.
Samantha1 on 17/6/2020 at 13:04
Quote Posted by trefoilknot
If it happened right out of the gate, the first time you used then, it sounds like an install matter. Something about S/R getting gummed up—it would explain both issues you’ve experienced (with the paintings and the talismans).
The .zip contains all of the necessary script files, so I’m not sure what the precise problem would be. But when I fired up your save, everything worked perfectly on all 3 of my machines (including clean install). As soon as I entered and exited one time, everything was back to normal and proceeded as expected.
I´m not 100% sure but let´s say 90% sure that it happened right after when I entered a painting the first time. I did not have any install issue though that would let me know that sth. is not working right.
Could you send me the save where you entered and exited and everything was back to normal? I´d like to try if it´s still going to happen for me after that too.
Do you use/Did you try it with fm selector and thief patch 1.27c? It might just be a version problem. Which would be bad for me though, cause I´d have to restart the whole thing:erm:
trefoilknot on 17/6/2020 at 15:29
Absolutely, I'll reset it all back to normal and pm you a save link. It'll be a few days before I get to it, though.
