ffox on 9/2/2018 at 10:25
@Philflound: At the Mayor's house, did you climb the ladder E of the entrance, unlock the metal gate and cross the planks? A bit later you should go for a swim.
If you've done all that, tell us where you are stuck.
ffox on 9/2/2018 at 10:44
@maika: Check your PMs.
@Judith: Sounds as though there is something wrong with your installation. If not, perhaps there is something wrong with your techniques?
Philflound on 9/2/2018 at 12:54
Quote Posted by ffox
@Philflound: At the Mayor's house, did you
climb the ladder E of the entrance, unlock the metal gate and cross the planks? A bit later you should go for a swim.If you've done all that, tell us where you are stuck.
Yes. I went for a swim, found a generator room. There is the invisible metal wall so I can't do anything else there.
Judith on 9/2/2018 at 13:14
@ffox: Unless I'm missing a script, everything seems to be fine on my end. Other missions work fine, the new mantle is enabled. As for techniques, how hard should it be, to press the crouch button and move down the tunnel out of the first location? It looks like the ceiling is too low for the character to go through. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The same goes for the window in that room, the one with the desk and the letter. Sometimes you can climb it, sometimes not. And it looks like you should be able to get inside. Again, sometimes you can, but then you can't get out, even while crouching. Since the tunnel was stuck for me, I thought this might be a way out, since the metal gate was closed. Level designers usually test such stuff carefuly, so players can find out where they should go, and they don't have to fight with controls.
ffox on 9/2/2018 at 13:45
@Philflound: Hug the wall to the right of the generator and you can squeeze past.
@Judith: I've just tried again and can get through the tunnel OK. I have never been stuck, and the other testers didn't report a problem.
Judith on 9/2/2018 at 15:14
@ffox: I just tried it, and I was able to go through, but when I tried to go bac and do it again, I was stuck. There seems to be something wrong with the tunnel, as even when you look at it in straight line, the ceiling seems to be almost clipping the camera view. Normally, if I'd seen such tunnel in the distance, I'd judge it as something I can't go in, because it looks too small. I don't know the exact player dimensions in Thief 2, but all the space players can traverse has to be a bit larger than that.
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maika on 9/2/2018 at 18:12
thanks ffox ... so appreciate the time you put in ... still not working for me and my partner tried too ... he's generally great at mantling alas ... perhaps should start anew again thanks
Philflound on 10/2/2018 at 04:17
Thanks ffox. Think the invisible metal wall should be removed. Finished with 14/15 secrets and 750 loot short.
ffox on 10/2/2018 at 09:35
It's not an invisible wall. The Dark engine is not wysiwyg - the actual space that objects (including Garrett) occupy is bigger than it appears. In the DromEd image here the blue lines show the true boundaries of the generator. As you can see, you need to be a bit further right than you would think.
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The same thing applies when it seems difficult to climb out of a well or onto a ledge - you are too close and your invisible "stomach" is getting in the way! Move back a fraction and it will be OK.