T2 Campaign - Keeper of Infinity 2: Mission 2 - Raven's Nest (6 Jan 2016)

Marbrien on 13/1/2016 at 15:23

The only difference for me (I was playing on Keeper) was that I didn't even get the list from Flik. I followed him down, bought some stuff, and that was that. I think I visited Jonas in the Void before returning the dagger. It crossed my mind that maybe that visit is supposed to be made after returning the dagger, and that has caused the issue for us. But I'd have to restart to check that theory out, and I don't particularly want to do that. Some people have got beyond that point, if they happen to read this, perhaps they could share their memories of the order in which they did things.

Tannar on 13/1/2016 at 15:36

Quote Posted by elkston

So my question is -- is the LIST all you need at this point and you'll get a key later? Or are they both supposed to come at the same time?

You should get the list and a key at the same time, or maybe one after another (I can't remember), but certainly in the same conversation with Flik. The key opens the metal door in the city wall just past the fenced off blue fog area where the three guards stand. You must go through that door to do the rest of the mission.

Quote Posted by Marbrien

I went to the void early on, before getting the dagger. I never went back to the void again, certainly not between getting the dagger and giving it to Flik.

elkston on 13/1/2016 at 15:42

Quote Posted by Marbrien

Mariben, to be clear, when he did give me the list (at least), I had to frob him when he was downstairs to get the new dialogue; and the based on the animations he does, you know it was intended that he give this talk while he was behind his desk. This sequence is very un-intuitive and unnatural so it can't have been what Soul Tear was planning.

Regarding the void visit being the culprit (or even going the sewers in the first place) -- who knows? The previous mission had several hidden flags and triggers that could make the mission sequence go awry.

Garrett on 13/1/2016 at 15:45

Quote Posted by Marbrien

I gave Flik the dagger and I didnt visit Keeper Jonas in the sewers before, and Im in the same situation as you, as Ive already told. I'm playing on the easiest difficulty level. Like you, I have installed ND 1.23 and the same version of FMsel. I never had problem with scripts, I installed the latest script bundle, so I could play Heartcliff islands and Yandros new micro-mission without a problem. So, Im sure the scripts are not the problem. I read in another Thief Forum, that this glitch occured already during beta tests, but I wasnt a tester, so I dont know any details about this process.

Taylor on 13/1/2016 at 17:26

I returned to the inn area via the sewers.
In the "R.I.P. Jonas" room I entered the area, talked to Jonas, and only later brought I back the dagger. I think at that point I didn't even have it yet.

Empyrium on 13/1/2016 at 18:56

Need find the dagger... how get to the other side of town?

nightchild on 13/1/2016 at 19:23

Quote Posted by elkston

I may be in the same boat, but I'm not sure. I've gotten Flik to give me a list, but not a key. Are you supposed to get both at the same time?

I was in the same boat as Marbien and nightchild for a few times. Turned in the dagger, bought some things, then went back to Flik and got the same "pre-dagger" dialogue over and over again. And this is clicking many, many times through the cycle.

So I tried this and something different did happen:

When you turn in the dagger, follow him downstairs and let him open up the shop. Once the shop is open, *immediately* start talking to him while he is downstairs. DO NOT let him go behind the counter upstairs. If you do it then, then Garret will have different dialogue and ask him about getting to other parts of the city. If you click through all of this, Flik will talk about how there are more favors you could do him, he will do an animation like he is dropping something (the screen will fade black) and then stop. Now you can let him go back upstairs and when you go back there, you will find his list -- a list of more items to steal

So my question is -- is the LIST all you need at this point and you'll get a key later? Or are they both supposed to come at the same time?

I'm playing on Garrett (Hard).

Elkston..!!!! thanks to you I now have the list and the key..!!!! i frobbed him constantly as he was going down and as he was going up, so after the second try I had the new objectves and the key+list... Anyone who wants a save before entering shop or after the new objectives ,,tell me.. (btw..this time I went straight there without visiting the lady or the sewers) Thank you so much!!!!!

nightchild on 13/1/2016 at 19:30

I make a single post of my answer above to be easily seen:
thanks to Elkston I now have the list and the key..!!!! i frobbed him constantly as he was going down and as he was going up, so after the second try I had the new objectves and the key+list... Anyone who wants a save before entering shop or after the new objectives ,,tell me.. (btw..this time I went straight there without visiting the lady or the sewers) But I have to inform you that I have 9 pouches.. if you have more... sorry..

Well, update... I have now a save after lady's house +void + mage's + key & list objectives triggered with 10 bags (the 11th beng in the inn, I don't know if I have missed others so far ) for any one in need of one..

nightchild on 13/1/2016 at 19:48

Quote Posted by Empyrium

Need find the dagger... how get to the other side of town?

start with the house next to the gap

elkston on 13/1/2016 at 21:51

Quote Posted by nightchild

LOL!! Guess what, I got the keys and list now, too! The last time I wasn't frobbing *enough* apparently. :-) This time, like you did, I just kept clicking as fast as I could on Flik while he was downstairs and when I went back up to his desk, the keys and list was there. When I picked them up, i got the new objectives.

OK. So back for more thieving and exploring !!! :)