Taylor on 8/1/2016 at 21:58

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Jonas' diary? Actually I read the book in the police station, book/scrolls in Lady Adaline's house, and the books/scrolls in the watch station area.
What did I miss?

baeuchlein on 8/1/2016 at 23:30

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To enter the manhole and get into the sewers, Garrett first needs to find a fellow Keeper, Jonas. Later on, when Jonas has vanished again, one can get his hidden diary, which gives you a reason to go into the sewers. So, if you have not yet found the Keeper, just ignore the manhole for the time being until later in the mission.




This is true on Taffer (easiest difficulty level) as well. I guess it's the same for all difficulty levels.




I don't think so. At least on easiest difficulty level, I did not need to do that.

I think I needed to search Keeper Jonas (or rather his dead body) for a crystal, then when I went upstairs in the "Stumbled Traveler Inn", Garrett mumbled something barely audible about spiders or something like that. Happened automatically, anyway. I do not remember whether the door to Cleman's room opened before that, but it's open now, and it opened on its own. I don't have the "There are no rooms available" objecive from your list, by the way.

baeuchlein on 9/1/2016 at 00:26

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No, that's not it. I don't have the spider, just an empty jar, and somewhere in the mission, his door opened on his own. I got some mumbled message from Garrett, though (see my post above for a few more details).

I'm stuck here as well. Playing on "Taffer" (easiest level), by the way. I have several objectives and no idea on how to complete any of the ones which are not done yet:

DONE: "Find Jonas' hide-out in 'The Stumbled Traveler Inn'."
Marked as failed: "Find out what the Keepers are hiding."
DONE but not visible anymore: "Jonas is dead, so it's useless to find his hide-out right now. Better check the inn's attic."
unchecked: "Inspect the House of Science. There's something wrong with this place." EDIT: Done that. See below.
Not visible anymore, but was readable before: "Thereon has sent a messenger for reinforcements and tomorrow the Mages will infiltrate the House of Science! You should let Jonas know."
DONE: "Change of plans. Steal the forest key. While the Mages will be waiting for the reinforcements, you may infiltrate the House of Science through the abandoned church's catacombs."
DONE: "Steal 3200."
DONE but not visible anymore: "Find the second hide-out of Jonas, under the sewer watchman's tower."
DONE: "Magic... damn it! You need to dispel it somehow."
unchecked: "What beasts are they? You should let the Keepers know about them at the first opportunity. But right now it's time to get some rest."
DONE but not visible anymore: "The crystal! You need to keep it safe until you meet the Keepers. It should be somewhere in Jonas' cloak."
unchecked: "It's certain that Thereon has already created the report. When you've finished with Jonas, deal with that Mage."
unchecked: "Mr. Cleman is afraid of insects. How would he react if he found a spider on his chest? Non-poisonous, of course. It's time for this guy to grow a pair."
unchecked: "Jacob wants me not to disturb Lady Adaline."
unchecked: "Do not harm unarmed people or attempt to kill anyone."
unchecked: "The Mages are important for this place, so don't touch them or their guards."


By the way, there appear to be some bugs present concerning some of the objectives.

First, there are several guards which seem to be considered "unarmed" by "Thief". Hitting them once with the sword (and not killing them) ends the mission with the objective "Do not harm unarmed people or attempt to kill anyone" marked as "failed". For example, the guard patrolling before the "Stumbled Traveler Inn" and carrying a lantern is one of those. Another one is in the passage connecting the shack with the Forest key and the small alleyway next to the inn. Unless, of course, just harming these guards is already considered an attempt to kill them. EDIT: I now re-read the "long" version of the objective again, and it's clear that even "a case of self-defence" counts as an attempt to kill. So it's not a bug, sorry.

Second, there are problems connected to reading Thereon's notes and/or Jonas' diary. These books make new objectives appear, and once Garrett discovers Keeper Jonas' second hideout, both objectives disappear again. However, if one reads these books again after discovering the second hideout, these objectives appear again. This time, they won't vanish if Garrett goes to the hideout once again. Whether this is a problem at the end of the mission, I don't know, since I haven't finished it yet.

EDIT: Fulfilled the objective to inspect the House of Science by climbing onto the small roof over the rear doors of the House of Science; the ones where there's no note from Thereon attached. To do so, I took the crate from the cart parked to the right of the doors, placed it to the left of the statue standing left of the doors, then climbed onto the crate and then onto the roof. Maybe I frobbed the glowing thingy up there, I don't know. Anyway, there was some writing onscreen, and Garrett said something about a creature, and then the objective ticked off.

Marbrien on 9/1/2016 at 09:06

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It seems several of us need someone who was involved in the making or testing of the mission, or who has played beyond this point in the first mission, to tell us exactly what we need to do:

a) to cause the Clean & Cozy to open
b) to cause Cleman's room to open
c) to find the really well hidden silver nuggets

and whether the actions differ on different difficulty levels. For me, none of these things have happened yet. Others have done a) or b), but without knowing how!

jiansonz on 9/1/2016 at 10:20

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I could jump+mantle up on the statues from the side, no problem. No crate needed, the flower beds gave me the needed extra height.

Are you sure you have new_mantle on? If you aren't, open up cam_ext.cfg and make sure the line with new_mantle does not start with a ; (semicolon)








A few times. I may be imagining things, but overhead strikes seem to be the most effective.

Rock beast seems unkillable. Maybe possible with explosions/fire, but I have none of that.