Ringer on 23/9/2015 at 08:28
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
/commences making fun of Ringer
And here I was thinking you would be happy I was wrong.. Unless you show happiness by making fun of others.. In any case I have used tomorrows lunch money to buy a copy of SS off GOG, even though I already have SS portable...
MAHK on 23/9/2015 at 18:03
So, I wanted to weigh in on the disappearance of Portable in favor of the GOG version, and this seems as good a place as any.
* US Intellectual Property law is not in a very good place right now, and needs reform. It seems like we've forgotten that the whole point of IP law is to give creators a short-term incentive to create for the long-term public domain.
* Shock Portable is awesome. All you guys who worked on it are heroes in my book. I cannot repeat that enough.
* All that said, given the current reality of IP law, there was always a sword of Damocles hanging over Shock portable. Legitimate rights holders could have shut it down at any time. Heck, illegitimate rights holders could have shut it down with a nuisance suit. When the takedown first happened, a lot of you feared the worst, and rightly so.
* But, thankfully, the rights are in the hands of people who are interested in maintaining its availability, rather than just locking it up to cover their own butts. The worst did not happen. At very least, the sword of Damocles has been disarmed.
* No, LookingGlass didn't really make any money off of System Shock, other than the development costs (i.e. we got paid salaries and benefits). We could have made money if the game had sold well initially, but it didn't. Don't feel bad about the fact that we don't get a cut of the GOG sales. (And don't worry about us; We are all gainfully employed at places like Valve and Harmonix and Riot, not to mention OtherWorld. We are the Secret Masters of Gaming now...) Your chance to give us your money was when the game first game out. If you are looking for something to feel bad about, you can feel bad about missing that chance. ;)
On the whole, I'm pretty happy to see Shock come to GOG. Maybe someday I'll finish my stream...
- MAHK
terrannova on 23/9/2015 at 18:10
Quote Posted by MAHK
So, I wanted to weigh in on the disappearance of Portable in favor of the GOG version, and this seems as good a place as any.
* US Intellectual Property law is not in a very good place right now, and needs reform. It seems like we've forgotten that the whole point of IP law is to give creators a short-term incentive to create for the long-term public domain.
* Shock Portable is awesome. All you guys who worked on it are heroes in my book. I cannot repeat that enough.
* All that said, given the current reality of IP law, there was always a sword of Damocles hanging over Shock portable. Legitimate rights holders could have shut it down at any time. Heck,
illegitimate rights holders could have shut it down with a nuisance suit. When the takedown first happened, a lot of you feared the worst, and rightly so.
* But, thankfully, the rights are in the hands of people who are interested in maintaining its availability, rather than just locking it up to cover their own butts. The worst did not happen. At very least, the sword of Damocles has been disarmed.
* No, LookingGlass didn't really make any money off of System Shock, other than the development costs (i.e. we got paid salaries and benefits). We
could have made money if the game had sold well initially, but it didn't. Don't feel bad about the fact that we don't get a cut of the GOG sales. (And don't worry about us; We are all gainfully employed at places like Valve and Harmonix and Riot, not to mention OtherWorld. We are the Secret Masters of Gaming now...) Your chance to give us your money was when the game first game out. If you are looking for something to feel bad about, you can feel bad about missing that chance. ;)
On the whole, I'm pretty happy to see Shock come to GOG. Maybe someday I'll finish my stream...- MAHK
Yes please! Loved your live stream. :cool:
Starker on 23/9/2015 at 18:33
Quote Posted by MAHK
Maybe someday I'll finish my stream...
That would be awesome. I really enjoyed the first stream and hearing all the stories and tidbits about the development of the game.
icemann on 28/9/2015 at 04:54
Quote Posted by MAHK
On the whole, I'm pretty happy to see Shock come to GOG. Maybe someday I'll finish my stream...
- MAHK
Please do. Be good to hear about the development that went into the later stuff. Plus just SS1 development stuff in general.
Good to hear the thoughts on this (SS1 Portable's demise) from a former Looking Glass employee also.
Ringer on 28/9/2015 at 05:40
Quote Posted by MAHK
We are all gainfully employed at places like Valve and Harmonix and Riot, not to mention OtherWorld.
No point working at Valve as Valve can not make games anymore.. Well seems that way anyway..
/cough HL3 coughicemann on 28/9/2015 at 06:06
Even with that said, they`d be an awesome place to work at.
Al_B on 3/10/2015 at 10:32
Excellent - fantastic work :)
voodoo47 on 3/10/2015 at 14:49
and here's the funny - it's actually your work as well, half the nsis script has been taken right out of the TFix file which you've provided a couple of years ago.
