Kyumaru on 24/3/2009 at 20:57
You farmed hybrids? Seriously?
Holy shit.
ZylonBane on 24/3/2009 at 21:20
You've never heard of hybrid farming? Seriously?
MP Robot UNN-034 on 24/3/2009 at 21:21
I think it works best if you're going for a StrengthMAX character. You need some decent armor and the ability to kill pipe hybrids in one hit for hybrid farming, as you call it, to be very effective. But if your character is resilient enough, you can farm them forever, cause they always give you more nanites than you'll use on healing yourself. It'd be fun to do it for the better part of a day just to post a screen of having a thousand shotgun shells and a thousand nanites, pretty much making the rest of the game crazy easy. It could be a new way of "cheating" in SS2. "Yeah I beat it but only after farming the hybrids till I had so much ammo and hypos I could never run out, therefore nullifying the 'conserve your gear' nature of the game".
(When I did it I only did it enough for a hundred shotgun shells or so. It's not like shotgun slugs are particularly useful, which is the type of ammo they usually drop.)
-Ben
Kyumaru on 24/3/2009 at 21:28
Quote Posted by MP Robot UNN-034
I think it works best if you're going for a StrengthMAX character. You need some decent armor and the ability to kill pipe hybrids in one hit for hybrid farming, as you call it, to be very effective. But if your character is resilient enough, you can farm them forever, cause they always give you more nanites than you'll use on healing yourself. It'd be fun to do it for the better part of a day just to post a screen of having a thousand shotgun shells and a thousand nanites, pretty much making the rest of the game crazy easy. It could be a new way of "cheating" in SS2. "Yeah I beat it but only after farming the hybrids till I had so much ammo and hypos I could never run out, therefore nullifying the 'conserve your gear' nature of the game".
(When I did it I only did it enough for a hundred shotgun shells or so. It's not like shotgun slugs are particularly useful, which is the type of ammo they usually drop.)
-Ben
Oh no no no, I wasn't commenting on the feasibility of it, I was just surprised that you actually did it. Seems an odd way to play a game where you can outright cheat or set the difficulty lower if you're having problems.
You don't by chance play MMORPGs? :D
steo on 25/3/2009 at 00:43
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
You've never heard of hybrid farming? Seriously?
I'm not quite sure what you mean, there are no farms in system shock. There are plants on deck 3 but how would you farm hybrids? The player's audio logs make it quiet clear that hybrids are the result of the worm-demons killing the people on the vern brown, who come back as zombies. Even if the player could grow lots of hybrid trees, there would be no way to get nanites and hypos in the way you describe - you would only have to use them up killing them all! Unless the hybrids you grow are on your side?
Kolya on 25/3/2009 at 05:42
Magic531: Way to spectacularly miss the point. See, of course it's not about realism (the story doesn't exactly call for realism, does it?) but about an atmosphere the game has, which is one of constant threat. The respawns make you have to deal with it in creative ways. Obviously you never had a dwindling amount of ammo and health and then notice you have to get by that crazy protocol droid that has found your way in the cargo bays. Yes, you have beaten a protocol droid before, but that's not the point. Most games have recurring enemies even without respawning.
Oh and I laughed out loud at your tips, coming from a professional no less, about hating on groups blah blah. I'm not hating you, you dimwit. (In fact you probably downloaded your norespawn mod from my site.) I'm just telling you, that you miss out on the atmosphere of the game. I wouldn't even care to do that, if you hadn't come in here pushing your point, like everyone
playing the game as it was created, was somehow retarded.
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For whatever reason, I am one of those gamers who does not like having to clear out a level twice. Once I kill something I want it to stay dead
After reading half of your repetitive post I was ready to give up on you, thinking 'Oh well, he doesn't get it, wth.' But you sure kept the best part for the end. And by best part I mean your hilariously passive aggressive but ultimately too longwinded "Go see a doctor" - bullshit. Go see a dictionary, you twit. Open it at 'M' - like metaphor.
Now excuse me please, while I'm off to rape my lungs with a pack of cigarettes, thoughtfully blowing smoke into the break of dawn, thinking - like I often do: "God, some people are retarded."
That's usually right before I snap again.
Kolya on 25/3/2009 at 06:07
WTF are Mutanis?
Oh wait...very clever sir.
MP Robot UNN-034 on 25/3/2009 at 07:15
It depends on the type of mindset you have.
Are you the kind of person who actually wants to be besieged by a literally endless ammount of enemies, like the ending of that bad 'The One' movie?
Or do you want to sterilise every deck of a giant starship till the only bad things you smell are your own armpits?
Sure, System Shock 2 is all about the atmosphere, the danger, etc. But if someone can make a minor tweak and find it vastly more enjoyable, then rock on. Infinite hybrids on a starship with only a hundred or so sleeping berths...? Where'd they all sleep...? Is this game SO dystopian we're expected to assume that the crew slept bum style on the floors? And remember, there's only 4 holographic sex rooms on the ship. That sets a limit on the population of the ship as much as anything.
I think that the ammount of hybrids, other flesh enemies, and dead crewmembers you find in the game in No Respawn would closely equal the ammount of crew that would be theoretically on the ship. That can add a sense of realism to the game that could make it more enjoyable. If you were quite convinced you'd neutralised every single threat on the ship... At the end of the game you could imagine your character walking all the way back to the beginning of the game buck naked. Its HIS ship now, and he don't need to wear clothes.
Some of you guys need to take about fifteen chill pills and wash it down with the strongest alcohol you can find.:thumb:
---Ben.
Zygoptera on 25/3/2009 at 10:58
Heh, one of the main reasons I made the spawn mod was because I got sick of self appointed Mullah Omar's prosetylising about the One True Way of playing SS2 and launching cyberjihad on whichever unbelievers stuck their heads above the parapet.
Play the game however you like and tell anyone who says otherwise to go play on railway tracks.
