Drat on 10/12/2006 at 00:37
Quote Posted by Hemebond
It would have been nice. Since I wrote most of it
and had the page
watched.
Well I'm sorry about that, but if you had checked your watchlist, you would have seen an edit to the page. Besides that, it doesn't show if a page is watched or not by others, at least not for normal users. AFAIK, all admins in that respect is access to a function that shows all pages that are not watched by anyone. I suppose I should have sent you a message as the creator, but I forgot. Mind you, I did express concerns on the article talk page at least a week or two before putting it up for proposed deletion.
Quote Posted by Hemebond
Of which there is only a forum post made by Kolya. Which is apparently against the rules too. Or is it just crediting that prevents the use of forum posts?
That's much more in terms of what is appropriate as a source used in an article, rather than just an external link.
Hemebond on 10/12/2006 at 01:21
Quote Posted by Drat
I suppose I should have sent you a message as the creator, but I forgot.
It should notify all watchers automatically when a change is made. I guess MediaWiki doesn't support that kind of thing.
I'm still trying to get the contents of the page.
Drat on 10/12/2006 at 07:09
Some pages can be watched by hundreds, if not thousands. There are probably at least a hundred thousand or more edits made each day. Do you realise the server load that would be created? If you have a page watched, then it will appear on your watchlist when it is changed. You just need to refresh the page. The watchlist shows changes in the last three days by default. You can then check the latest edit, or the entire history of the article.
The only time that the nature of the change is shown in the edit summary (and therefor on your watchlist), if the user does not write one, is if a page is moved, created, redirected, blanked or the content replaced. The last two are a great way of catching vandals, and are fairly recent changes.
I guess the best place to go for getting the deleted text is to ask an admin. Maybe they can email it to you. If you've entered an email address in your preferences, others can send you email, without having to know your address.
Hemebond on 10/12/2006 at 08:05
Quote Posted by Drat
Some pages can be watched by hundreds, if not thousands. There are probably at least a hundred thousand or more edits made each day. Do you realise the server load that would be created?
Yes. Forums email users when a thread is updated.
Quote Posted by Drat
If you have a page watched, then it will appear on your watchlist when it is changed. You just need to refresh the page. The watchlist shows changes in the last three days by default.
But it requires checking back on Wikipedia regularly. In this case, on an effectively static page that I had no need to check back on.
Deleting an entire page is quite a bit more important than someone fixing a spelling mistake. I do agree that emailing all watchers for
every change would be unnecessary and unreasonable.
Quote Posted by Drat
I guess the best place to go for getting the deleted text is to ask an admin. Maybe they can email it to you. If you've entered an email address in your preferences, others can send you email, without having to know your address.
No need. I saved a copy when you first suggested it may be deleted. I found it today. I have obtained closure on the matter.
Drat on 10/12/2006 at 08:10
Quote Posted by Hemebond
Yes. Forums email users when a thread is updated.
The only thing Wikipedia does along those lines are when you get a message on your talk page. You get notified on your next page load, and all subsequent page loads until you check the page.
Quote Posted by Hemebond
But it requires checking back on Wikipedia regularly. In this case, on an effectively static page that I had no need to check back on.
You had five days to check it.
Quote Posted by Hemebond
No need. I saved a copy when you first suggested it may be deleted. I found it today. I have obtained closure on the matter.
I'm glad it's all resolved.
Matthew on 11/12/2006 at 09:10
Ah, Wikipedia, why do you torment us so?
ZylonBane on 11/12/2006 at 16:01
Quote Posted by Vigil
ITT we treat Wikipedia like it's <a href="http://www.mobygames.com/">Mobygames</a>, and then call editors cocksuckers for removing stuff that is not in line with the mission statement of an encyclopedia
There's a time and a place, people
But Drat actually is a cocksucker, metaphorically speaking. He's been systematically rules-lawyering the SS2 and Deus Ex articles into a fine paste. To him, fanatic devotion to the rules is more important than a clear, informative article.
ZylonBane on 12/12/2006 at 12:51
See what I mean?