EvaUnit02 on 23/1/2021 at 02:08
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock/posts/3019900)
Are you modder dudes getting paid for your work?
Quote:
We’d also like to announce that anyone who pre-orders System Shock remake will receive System Shock 2: Enhanced Edition for free and ALL Kickstarter/Backerkit backers who backed at the $30 level or higher will also be receiving SS2:EE for free. It’s our intention to release both System Shock remake and SS2:EE around the same time. SS2:EE has evolved into more than what we were intending. This will be a complete source port to our KEX engine. All the character and weapons models are being remade, and we’ve received permission from the Shock community to include many of the mods that have become standard for many Shock 2 veterans.
These include:
Vurt's Space Textures, Flora, Hi-res Water, Organics/Goo
ACC's Four Hundred (400) Hi-res Terrain Textures
Eldron's Psi Amp
Olfred's Fixed Objects
Grosnus' Hi-Res Spinning Marine/Navy/OSA logos
SCP
SHTUP
ZylonBane's New Quest Notifier
Vaxquis Vintage Song Remake v1.0 Mod
Mercurius' Tacticool Weapon Replacements
Here is a quick look at the before and after of the protocol droid. We’ve added more detail to both the poly model and the texture while retaining as much of the original as possible.
Inline Image:
https://files.catbox.moe/qraysx.webp
voodoo47 on 23/1/2021 at 12:28
those who gave a permission publicly, did not ask for any kind of monetary compensation, afaik. besides, most mods have too many contributors (with some being mia) for just one person to claim full ownership, and that makes getting paid for such a mod morally questionable.
I wanted to sell them my (
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=9669) toothbrush mod, but they didn't want it for some reason.
[video=youtube;ddxF46VUVJ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddxF46VUVJ0[/video]
iramshahrier on 23/1/2021 at 15:11
Why are usermods being included with this port is beyond me let alone the fact that none of these are purist friendly. This will be some players' first experience with the game and they will see it not how the devs intended it rather how some modder thinks it should be. :mad:
voodoo47 on 25/1/2021 at 11:37
lets put the fact that most of those mods are as faithful to the vanilla aesthetics as (in)humanly possible, and NDS are actually hiring people to finish up/tweak those that aren't aside, and let me guess, you are THE guy who knows EXACTLY what the original devs intended to be a first time experience for all the players that existed, exist and will exist, because you KNOW how all the people should play the game, and what should they like and enjoy. I somehow have a hard time believing that.
dude, just take out your win98 retro machine, pop the cd in, and do your thing if the NewDark build, enhanced editions, reboots, mods or whatever aren't your cup of tea.
Harvester on 25/1/2021 at 13:50
Maybe they'll keep the Enhanced edition separate from the Classic edition like they did with SS1. Then everyone can choose whether they want to play with enhanced visuals or not.
voodoo47 on 25/1/2021 at 14:04
yes they will, this has been confirmed multiple times.
ZylonBane on 26/1/2021 at 15:51
Quote Posted by iramshahrier
Why are usermods being included with this port is beyond me let alone the fact that none of these are purist friendly.
First, most of those mods are extremely purist-friendly. They take the original assets and increase their quality without introducing any stylistic changes. Second, you know these are going to be optional, right?
Valet2 on 27/1/2021 at 23:01
Quote Posted by iramshahrier
Why are usermods being included with this port is beyond me let alone the fact that none of these are purist friendly. This will be some players' first experience with the game and they will see it not how the devs intended it rather how some modder thinks it should be. :mad:
As a veteran shocker I have to admit most of these mods don't change estetics of the game, but rather fix and polish what was left as it were due to the devs were in a rush. It's a dilemme whether to leave what is clearly wrong (floating object, wrong texture placement thus overlapping, broken script due to a typo) because "that was the devs' vision" or to fix them.
SCP fixes thousands and thousands of those small issues. The texture and music mods leave everything as it was but increases the quality: the game would look and sound much worse on modern PCs if you leave the original assets. Thankfully they are not gonna include Rebirth mod which doesn't fit. The Quest notifier is another useful thing that just fits, and I would recommend anyone using it.
So it's not a stupid soup of mods from various places, but a well-balanced kit made by experienced people with good taste and combined by other talented guys who clearly (and hopefully) know what they are doing.
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Are you modder dudes getting paid for your work?
The devs asked each of them if they are ok with the mod being included. Of course you could ask for some money for the work you did 15 years ago, but being a grown man would you choose a few hundred-ish bucks (would they really make you feel better?) or you would be glad to leave a footprint in the game which would be preserved for generations?
Minion21g on 6/2/2021 at 00:42
Hey, just wanted to say thanks to all you modders for your public work on the project. I'm really looking forward to the Enhanced Edition. I've used a lot of these mods for YEARS now and I'm glad they're getting broader recognition with the help of NightDive.
That said, I'm curious how they managed to make the upgraded models. Something I read made me believe that that was somewhat difficult to do in DromEd.
Eldron on 7/2/2021 at 10:09
Quote Posted by Minion21g
That said, I'm curious how they managed to make the upgraded models. Something I read made me believe that that was somewhat difficult to do in DromEd.
Elbow grease!