ReFracture on 7/5/2008 at 07:01
So right now I run a geforce 8800GT. With the recent drivers update from nvidia, System Shock 2 is broken. It does not work, period. Same could be said for Thief and Thief 2.
I just heard that nvidia will NOT be releasing anymore drivers at all for the 8 series. I'm rather pissed off about this. To hell with nvidia if they're going to break games and then stop updating drivers.
How well do ATi cards handle these games? Could I get a high end one and still be able to play these? I've heard good things about ATi and support for older games.
cosmicnut on 7/5/2008 at 08:22
OK, SS2 and thief are really old in gaming standards. They can't spend thousands on driver development for old games, its not worth it for them.
I've had SS2 working on my rig with an 8800GTX, whats the symptoms we might be able to work it out.
As for no more drivers... Where did you hear "no more development"? nVidia use a unified driver, so there is only 1 driver package for all card. If you look at the release notes for the lates version, there are fixes being implemented for 6 and 7 series cards!
They may not be doing any major performance work but they will still fix bugs
ReFracture on 7/5/2008 at 18:35
Quote Posted by cosmicnut
OK, SS2 and thief are really old in gaming standards. They can't spend thousands on driver development for old games, its not worth it for them.
I've had SS2 working on my rig with an 8800GTX, whats the symptoms we might be able to work it out.
As for no more drivers... Where did you hear "no more development"? nVidia use a unified driver, so there is only 1 driver package for all card. If you look at the release notes for the lates version, there are fixes being implemented for 6 and 7 series cards!
They may not be doing any major performance work but they will still fix bugs
I can't really find a reliable reference to my claim of no more drivers, so I'll have to drop that one.
I'm just irked at how simply updating drivers break things. I don't see why they are removing features, either. I remember updating the drivers for my old GeForce FX card, which broke Thief1, Metal Gear Solid, FF7, and FF8.
8-bit palleted textures were lost, which hurt the latter 3, whereas I started getting that video memory error with Thief. I can understand the drop of the 8-bit texture, that was a hardware feature.
Last supported by the FX series. But dropping it even for cards that actually had support for it is just lame.
Thanks for the link Koyla. I got shock2 working. No issues that I can see.
But back to my original question, how well do ATi cards fare in these old games? I haven't heard many people speak of ATi's cards regarding these games.
Nameless Voice on 7/5/2008 at 19:45
Read around in the Legacy Gaming forum.
ATI cards up to the 1950XT work perfectly in Thief, they've even finally fixed the fog.
However, all the ATI DX10 cards don't support dithered 16-bit either, so they have the same graphical problems at the GeForce 8 series cards had before the latest drivers caused them to make Thief / SS2 crash.
icemann on 9/5/2008 at 17:38
Just use ddfix. Completely fixed 100% of the problems I was having with trying to get the game to run with my nvidia 8800 GTS.