Subtle differences between the US and the UK that baffle me/you/us. - by SubJeff
Vivian on 17/12/2012 at 09:12
Subj, stop being a dickhead about vegetarianism. You don't know what you are talking about.
Ulukai on 17/12/2012 at 09:27
Quote Posted by nickie
@ Neb - but barth is the (
http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=bath) generally 'correct' pronuciation unless you're from Stafford in which case you'll say bath as in math. It's just a dialect thing anyway
Pretty much anywhere north of Stafford too. My family is from the south, so I say "barth", Having lived in the north for many years, I've had to get used to accusations of "talking posh", even though my accent is quite neutral. Fuckers :D
However, if you're from County Durham as my wife is, you do put the 'r' in but only for certain words. i.e. they say "Master" as "Marster". Which
isn't posh, apparently. Go figure.
june gloom on 17/12/2012 at 09:30
I say 'dodgy' too!
I also say 'tosh' but only when talking about Daniel Tosh, who is tosh, as is his brand of comedy.
SD on 17/12/2012 at 12:29
Quote Posted by faetal
I guess that does rule a lot out. But it's kind of like someone saying "dairy is shit because I'm lactose intolerant".
Well, not quite; for instance, I don't think too many lactase deficient individuals have an ethical problem with milk.
But I can get great vegetarian Chinese food and great vegetarian Thai food and great vegetarian Mexican food. I can't get great vegetarian French food, and I think that points to an intransigence in the cuisine, an unwillingness to adapt to the demands of the modern consumer.
My mother's copy of
Larousse Gastronomique includes tips on preparing lion meat, for crying out loud! How out of touch can you get?
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The thirty-something going
yeahhh blowjobs from 18-year-olds:cool::cool: i'm not suggesting anything underage, but it's still pretty unpleasant and pointless
Right, so when I wrote "you", you interpreted this as meaning "I".
I was just offering a situation when it's acceptable to use the word "nosh", not relaying personal experience.
My girlfriend is 32, 2 years younger than me. Is that an acceptable age difference? :rolleyes:
demagogue on 17/12/2012 at 12:36
Ah, we bought a classic French cookbook not long ago and I agree it's hilariously conservative and out of touch. It was already berating me if I mixed in the wrong way. It's not often I laugh out loud trying to follow a cookbook just by the sheer preposterousness of it. (I know that's not a real word, that's how preposterous it is.)
SD on 17/12/2012 at 12:38
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
I think we've been over this before. You may think my guitar playing it better than Clapton's. That would be a subjective opinion, and also wrong.
I don't agree that this musical skill is analogous to food.
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Seeing as you are vegetarian I don't think you can really have an opinion on international cuisine since you cannot and do not eat most of it. Certainly your reflections on the quality of Chinese food in Liverpool, whilst probably true because of the pedigree of the area, in isolation would be next to worthless since Chinese food incorporates a vast array of meats even in dishes that aren't really "meat" dishes like rices, noodles and even vegetable dishes.
Oh shut up. Tofu has been part of Chinese cuisine for thousands of years. The Chinese are mostly Buddhist, so vegetarianism is an intrinsic part of Chinese culture and Chinese food.
SubJeff on 17/12/2012 at 12:42
SD, I hear you on the veggie French stuff. But I think you just have to say "Oh, French". :)
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Right, so when I wrote "you", you interpreted this as meaning "I".
I was just offering a situation when it's acceptable to use the word "nosh", not relaying personal experience.
Yep. I don't get why people are up in arms over this. Have we reached Paedogeddon yet?
Quote Posted by Vivian
Subj, stop being a dickhead about vegetarianism. You don't know what you are talking about.
I'd trust SD to tell me where I could get good vegetarian Chinese food, but as he doesn't eat meat he's not in a position to tell me whether the meat dishes are good.
To be clear - I'd not be so solid in this stance if he were talking about Mexican or Spanish food. My ex of many years was Taiwanese and I lived in Taiwan for a short period of time. I've had a lot of Chinese food, of all types, and the good vegetarian stuff is almost never in the same place as the good non-veggie stuff; thus the rift. Edit: this applies to tofu dishes too. Places that know what they are doing with tofu are few and far between in the UK in general. I have eaten at a very, very good restaurant in Liverpool that did excellent tofu though.
SD - remind me; how far does your vegetarianism go? Fish, seafood, eggs? What do you not eat? I know you're going to think it a silly question but I meet so many "vegetarians" who then eat fish, of if not fish prawns, or only really small prawns. Or stuff flavoured with fish sauce, etc.
PS. Good to have you posting again.
faetal on 17/12/2012 at 12:50
Quote Posted by SD
But I can get great vegetarian Chinese food and great vegetarian Thai food and great vegetarian Mexican food. I can't get great vegetarian French food, and I think that points to an intransigence in the cuisine, an unwillingness to adapt to the demands of the modern consumer.
Unwillingness to adapt / ethical thresholds != tastes bad.
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My mother's copy of
Larousse Gastronomique includes tips on preparing lion meat, for crying out loud! How out of touch can you get?
See above. I wouldn't eat lion's meat (and I'm not sure you can get it easily over there), but that doesn't mean it tastes bad.
[EDIT] Also: (
http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/4chan/England/uyzcGhl/) SUBTLE DIFFERENCES
demagogue on 17/12/2012 at 12:54
IMO allowing fish points more towards ethical vegetarianism than dogmatic vegetarianism ... because if you're really interested in the moral rights of animals, their cognitive development matters, and fish have less capacity than mammals. A person is more consistent if they're more dogmatic -- it doesn't matter what the status of the animal; they don't eat meat for its own sake.
SubJeff on 17/12/2012 at 13:01
Quote Posted by faetal
Unwillingness to adapt / ethical thresholds != tastes bad.
Who are you saying is unwilling to adapt though? The French? Because if they are then it is entirely reasonable to assume that their un-researched and untested veggie food will be of a poorer standard.
And if you're saying that SD is unwilling to adapt I'd dispute that also.
dema - why does the cognitive ability of the animal matter? It is a alive and you are taking its life. Saying that a fish suffers less than a pig is making a judgement and its just plain old discrimination, isn't it?
