A.Stahl on 2/5/2022 at 11:14
Quote Posted by Psych0sis
And don't mind the GRUMPIEST™ Gamer's unneeded input
You need it. Without my opinion this community will drown in a disgustedly sweet self-praising. I am this community's window to the real world. The world without pink burriks flying over the rainbow.
FireMage on 2/5/2022 at 12:35
Quote Posted by A.Stahl
You need it. Without my opinion this community will drown in a disgustedly sweet self-praising.
You said absolutely nothing constructive. Just calling all this amount of work "a waste of time" is not a necessary nor useful input.
Without your opinion, Kerrle would just have spent some good time sharing his hardwork and explaining it instead of debatting with you.
You prefer PC plateform? Fine, nobody will be forced to switch to steamdeck if Kerrle succeed in their project.
He told you how it works and how intuitive it can get, and in return you just answered in a rude and narrow-minded way.
It is fine to give criticism as I am myself against the "sweet and cherry mind" ie calling everything genius just because it exists, but at the condition the feedback is objective, smart and well meaning to call to improvement...which is rarely the words to define your criticism which is most part of time completely subjective and insincere if not disrespectful.
Kerrle on 2/5/2022 at 15:01
Quote Posted by zajazd
Would you be able to create a patch/mod for Thief for native controller support? I have been using Xpadder to play fan missions with my Xbox One controller for a while but I have always thought about how great it would be to have native support.
That'd be better handled by the new Dark authors; I wouldn't want to try keeping a controller patch up to date as ND updates, even if I could manage the reverse engineering.
If you use Steam, you could also do it via Steam Input - Thief has native joystick support so you can get analog movement control and maybe set up the right stick as a mouse joystick. It'd probably be at least as good as what you're doing through Xpadder.
Kerrle on 2/5/2022 at 15:08
Quote Posted by trefoilknot
Awesome! Was it hard to get it running? Or does it work just fine out of the box?
Out of the box it runs, but has performance issues - probably just something weird in their config.
But if you download the standard fan patches and run them through steam with the proton experimental compatibility layer (literally just go to Games -> Add a non steam game, then right click, manage->compatibility), then the installer works fine. You just point it to your Thief install as usually and then add the new executable as a non-steam game and set it to run though proton as above.
It's not painless, but it's basically the same as Windows, except that you run the patcher through Steam instead of just running it natively.
kostyabud2009 on 4/5/2022 at 04:01
The most closest thing we'll get for Thief on the Run. Thief in the car, in a bus, train...
Komag on 5/5/2022 at 21:59
This is very cool! I've enjoyed Thief with a controller in the past using an old program called Pinnacle Profiler with an Xbox 360 gamepad, but that was a long time ago.
Kerrle on 6/5/2022 at 05:09
But doesn't have the advanced controls that really makes it work well.
If you're fine playing FPS with a joystick it might be okay.
Also, runs windows isn't all good. The deck does awesome stuff with suspend/resume that doesn't work on Windows; it really does make it like a Switch where you can pick it up and are immediately in game, and can put it down just as easily.
EDIT:
I really don't want to undersell exactly how much SteamOS brings to this, btw. You can power off or on at any time and you'll be back in the game in literally 1 second - and it seems to work with every game or app I've tried.
And Valve is working on being able to suspend apps and store them, so you may soon be able to pause your Thief game, go play something else, and then come back to it and be right there where you left off.
There's also some awesome overlays you can enable with as much (or little) diagnostic data as you want, and if you're trying to maximize battery life you can cap framerate, set resolution scaling, or toggle a few other settings to get the longest session out of the battery.
Basically it really does feel like a console, in a good way, but of course you can always drop back to a desktop if you need to.
<Username> on 6/5/2022 at 18:10
Playing Thief on a mobile device with decent controls sounds neat. I am pretty much out of the loop of news about gaming, so this is the first time I even heard of the Steam Deck.
