WingedKagouti on 25/11/2016 at 22:15
Quote Posted by faetal
Is there such a thing in this day and age? I always assumed the pressure to get games out before all the creases were ironed out came from publishers rather than devs.
It does seem fairly common that publishers go "Ship the game with an 'acceptable' amount of bugs, as long as they don't actively destroy the system". Most developers just want to get paid so they can support their families, so when a publisher cracks the whip they jump. Of course, some developers are more skilled than others and can root out more bugs with the same amount of man hours.
Anyway, grabbed Shadow Warrior 2 and have been having a blast. I was a bit unsure around launch, so I held off even though I could have got it for 20% off then.
Nameless Voice on 25/11/2016 at 22:48
I don't know, I've been getting the impression lately that game designers hardly bother to test the basics, or the quality of tests has dropped alarmingly.
Yes, I do remember Daggerfall on release, but Bethesda were tiny then. There's no excuse for e.g. Fallout 4 to ship with a completely unusable control/UI scheme on PC, when it's the first thing any decent PC tester would surely have complained about it.
faetal on 25/11/2016 at 23:18
It may also come down to a decision between "shall we meet this unmovable deadline with no bugs and drop feature X" or "shall we get as many things that we wanted in as possible and patch up the bugs as quick as we can after release".
For me, I prefer the latter, since I rarely care too much about playing games immediately after release these days.
Nameless Voice on 26/11/2016 at 00:11
That's somewhat true, yes. Better to release it buggy than to go bankrupt because you didn't release it at all (and so earned no money on it.)
Some of the really obvious stuff that should have been fixed in early prototyping (like FO4's PC interface) managing to get into a production game still amazes me though.
Twist on 26/11/2016 at 02:56
Night Dive is encouraging people to pick System Shock 2 for the "Villain In Most Need of A Hug" award. If SHODAN wins, they'll "have a special treat for everyone." :erm:
Yakoob on 26/11/2016 at 03:00
...well isn't that what Early Access is for? What if Beth published under that label, hmm...
Vae on 26/11/2016 at 03:12
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
I don't know, I've been getting the impression lately that game designers don't hardly bother to test the basics, or the quality of tests has dropped alarmingly.
Yes, I do remember Daggerfall on release, but Bethesda were tiny then. There's no excuse for e.g. Fallout 4 to ship with a completely unusable control/UI scheme on PC, when it's the first thing any decent PC tester would surely have complained about it.
I agree. There's no getting around it...it's a combination of laziness and incompetence.
Back in the day, there was a higher bar...today, a Mcgamer can get his fingers in the pie.
Jason Moyer on 26/11/2016 at 04:31
Damn I'd pick SS2 for that but Caesar and Mr House really need hugs. I mean, the latter would literally die if you did that (there should probably a perk-based conversation option for it).
Pyrian on 26/11/2016 at 04:44
Does SHODAN need a hug, or The Many?
Starker on 26/11/2016 at 08:45
"Does the Machine Mother know that her own creation is greater than she? She is cold and empty. We are warm and full. She only seeks to destroy. We seek to embrace..."
