heywood on 8/10/2017 at 16:05
Changing religion is the small thing? Only an agnostic person could say that.
Pyrian on 8/10/2017 at 16:42
Quote Posted by heywood
Changing religion is the small thing? Only an agnostic person could say that.
Icemann did say he's not religious "AT ALL". I would hope that even a severely religious person could understand that changing from not practicing one religion to not practicing a different religion might be seen as not that big a deal.
icemann on 9/10/2017 at 06:31
My extent of being religious is that I occasionally pray for good fortune, and that when the time comes I'll go to a good place and not to just empty nothingness.
It just never felt right to me to have to change for someone else (of that sort of change). To an outsider and to her it may appear to be a minor change, to me it's important.
Vasquez on 9/10/2017 at 08:02
Well I rather meant that do you really see having kids a minor change that you can do for the other's sake, even though it's meh and nowhere on your priorities list etc, and even though it will change your life radically? No more quiet togetherness, you know.
I'm not saying you can't or you shouldn't, and in the end the reason is, of course, "because I feel like it". I'm just really curious how people rationalise these things to themselves :D
icemann on 9/10/2017 at 08:10
I never really looked at it that way. lol.
I guess I look at it, that kids were always going to be part of the equation at some point whether I'm a fan of it or not.
scumble on 9/10/2017 at 19:32
Quote Posted by icemann
ANYWAYS. What I was replying to say was that she reacts exactly the same as your ex, in that she HATES IT when I tell my family about anything personal to do with her. She wants to keep everything all private.
Well keep resisting that - I wish I had because it might have polarised things earlier. Maybe it's more a cultural difference in your case. I guess it hasn't been enough for you to fall out completely. Your situation still makes me feel uneasy, but you seem to have more of a handle on what's going on than I did. I hope things continue OK, you're right that trying to have kids in 2 years is unrealistic given the finances.
I suppose philosophically at this point in my life I don't think anyone should consider kids as a given or an assumption. There's nothing inevitable about the marriage -> have kids -> raise family formula. Humans seem to keep doing it though. More than enough of us already...
heywood on 9/10/2017 at 22:14
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Icemann did say he's not religious "AT ALL". I would hope that even a severely religious person could understand that changing from not practicing one religion to not practicing a different religion might be seen as not that big a deal.
Maybe I read more into his situation than is there, but I assumed that if his fiancé and her parents want him to convert to Islam, they're expecting him to do more than just call himself a Muslim and not practice any of it.
I think if somebody wants you to convert to 'X', usually they want you to do more than just say you're 'X', because if religious practice wasn't important to them why would they even ask? And even if there was no expectation that you'd practice your new religion, would you feel comfortable telling people you've converted to this new religion, basically lying to them and pretending to believe when you really don't? I couldn't do that.
Pyrian on 9/10/2017 at 23:09
Maybe! And maybe not. My own father-in-law wanted a Muslim wedding for his daughter and didn't seem to give a fig about whether or not I actually believed any of it. I don't think the Imam was fooled in the slightest, but any chance to preach, I guess.
But then there's the flip side. To butcher Philip K. Dick, children and the awesome responsibilities of raising them don't go away when you stop believing in them.
demagogue on 10/10/2017 at 02:57
This morning Windows 10 forced an update on me and locked up my computer for an hour when I needed to work on it.
So I was already pissed about that.
Now that it's over, whenever I move any icon on the desktop, the other icons move from their place, and sometimes the icon I'm moving moves itself to another place, along with the other icons. So it's impossible to line any icons up anywhere.
Are you shitting me?
Are you literally fucking shitting me?
Windows 3 handled that shit and you, stupid Win10 update, can't.
It's like the most basic primitive feature a desktop OS needs to handle.
Edit: And a window's/Word's top bar color pops in and out as you click on menu items and move windows around. Hahaha, what? Good gobkins what a shit release. These are the kinds of bugs you see in newbie Unity weekend projects. (Not to mention it's ugly.) I'll add in more LOLWTF moments as they come.
icemann on 10/10/2017 at 04:09
Quote Posted by scumble
Well keep resisting that - I wish I had because it might have polarised things earlier. Maybe it's more a cultural difference in your case. I guess it hasn't been enough for you to fall out completely. Your situation still makes me feel uneasy, but you seem to have more of a handle on what's going on than I did. I hope things continue OK, you're right that trying to have kids in 2 years is unrealistic given the finances.
I'm just a very stubborn person :). My last relationship before the current one was a very abusive style one. As in verbally, as we would fight almost 24/7. In the case of that one, the girlfriend was very controlling and super clingy. So she'd want to talk on the phone 4 hours a day every day on a set roster (crazy I know), and she'd try and push me into ditching friends that she did not like. It never worked as I never gave her an inch on that (plus I'm a strong believer that no'one but you, has the right to choose your friends), so we'd argue all the time. Sex was great which was the only reason I stuck around for so long. Of which long = a on again, off again relationship of over 5 years. I didn't like the person that she was turning me into, + she ended up cheating so that was it with that one.
You be with someone who brings out the best in you, not the worst. Plus she was nothing but negative energy. Life is MUCH better when you surround yourself with positive people.
So after that abusive relationship it made me all the more stubborn in relationships from then on. Has it's benefits and negatives.
