Sporting regeneration in Scotland could be set back 20 years by the London Olympics - by Naartjie
Myoldnamebroke on 16/3/2007 at 19:36
Because the diversion of funds is as much of a problem for Scotland as it is for any place in England that's not London.
SD on 16/3/2007 at 20:58
Quite. Sport England has just had a huge tranche of its money taken away too (it seems we'll host the finest athletics championships the world has ever seen in 2012, and not have enough elite athletes to actually win much more than we normally do). Projects in the provinces are also being curtailed; up here, a (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merseytram) planned tram scheme was cancelled on rather spurious grounds, no doubt so the funds could be diverted towards the Olympics.
Hey, but at least we got the £20bn for our new nukes though :thumb:
Naartjie on 16/3/2007 at 21:02
Quote Posted by Myoldnamebroke
Because the diversion of funds is as much of a problem for Scotland as it is for any place in England that's not London.
But that comment was about the drain on working people, not funds. The issue here is that due to the Olympics Scotland is losing out on funds which are being appropriated for a cause which won't benefit the country, not that the Olympic games are causing Scots to emigrate to London (if that's what you meant...?)
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
Quite. Sport England has just had a huge tranche of its money taken away too (it seems we'll host the finest athletics championships the world has ever seen in 2012, and not have enough elite athletes to actually win much more than we normally do). Projects in the provinces are also being curtailed; up here, a (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merseytram) planned tram scheme was cancelled on rather spurious grounds, no doubt so the funds could be diverted towards the Olympics.
Well it looks like Sport England is being hit hard as well, I wasn't aware that other sporting bodies were being hit just as hard. Ther whole thing is gorgeously ironic :erm:
Myoldnamebroke on 16/3/2007 at 21:12
Quote Posted by Naartjie
But that comment was about the drain on working people, not funds. The issue here is that due to the Olympics Scotland is losing out on funds which are being appropriated for a cause which won't benefit the country, not that the Olympic games are causing Scots to emigrate to London (if that's what you meant...?)
It's a related issue: London dwarfs any other city in the UK and as a consequence drains all sorts of resources - money and people - away from everywhere else.
SubJeff on 16/3/2007 at 21:49
The whole thing is a crock. Londoners have to pay for this even if they weren't supporters of the idea and as StD points out - we spend enough on things we just don't need.
Naartjie on 16/3/2007 at 21:59
Quote Posted by Myoldnamebroke
It's a related issue: London dwarfs any other city in the UK and as a consequence drains all sorts of resources - money and people - away from everywhere else.
Yeah, but this is in the specific context of the Olympic games, which is not in the same category as the everyday migration of people and jobs to London. I'm not saying that this doesn't happen in lots of other areas but the £40 million I'm taking about wouldn't be leaving Scotland if it weren't for the one-off occasion of the Olympics.
Martlet on 17/3/2007 at 10:57
Estimated cost of Scottish Parliament Building - £40 million
End cost - £414 million
Stop whining about a waste of money, when your own government can be blamed for wasting it in an even more profligate way
All of Britain will have to pay for at least some of the Olympics, not just Scotland
SubJeff on 17/3/2007 at 11:04
How much would it cost to rebuilt Hadrian's Wall? With laser turrets and kilt/haggis sensors?
Naartjie on 18/3/2007 at 19:34
Quote Posted by Martlet
Estimated cost of Scottish Parliament Building - £40 million
End cost - £414 million
Stop whining about a waste of money, when your own government can be blamed for wasting it in an even more profligate way
All of Britain will have to pay for at least some of the Olympics, not just Scotland
Everybody will be coughing up in some way, but a large number (in
each of the home nations) won't be taxed so disproportionately for an event which will bring benefits so far removed from those who will be paying. I also don't see how the Scottish Parliament has anything to do with this, which if you think about it is actually one of the problems.
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How much would it cost to rebuilt Hadrian's Wall? With laser turrets and kilt/haggis sensors?
Let me guess, you're probably the kind who harbours impotent fantasies about being able to shoot Welshmen with a longbow in Hereford?
Martlet on 18/3/2007 at 20:10
I don't understand the disproportionate bit; £40 million coming from a population of 5 million is hardly excessive.
The Scottish Parliament has everything to do with it. Did Scotland pay all £414 million of it?
I love the Scottish, my grandad's Scottish and I spend around 5 weeks a year in Scotland. I just wish that sommetimes they'd get over their whole persecution thing and acknowledge that they are a part of the UK.
btw you can shoot a welshman in Chester, not Hereford
