Striker on 25/7/2002 at 00:17

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From what I can tell, the Dunmer never worshipped the Aedra, instead they worshipped the Daedra. When the Tribunal came, Three Daedra [Boethiah, Azura, Mephala] joined with the Tribunal, while Four Daedra [Molag Bal, Malacath, Sheogorath, Mehrunes Dagon] refused. These Daerda are known as the 'Four Corners of the House of Troubles'.

As to why Azura would change the Chimer to Dunmer because of the Tribuanl actions then join with them is anyones guess. Perhaps she needed to appear on their side so she could help the Nerevar Re-incarnate.

Red-

The Tribunal are made up of Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec, which is where ALMSIVI comes from. (ALMalexia, sotha SIl and VIvec).

-Striker

Striker on 25/7/2002 at 01:27

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In the 'Ayleid Creation Myth' there is the following line:

'The blood of Anu became the Eight Aedra.'

This suggests that the Eight Divinities are the Aedra. Also, in the 'Cyrodil Creation Myth', there is the following:

'These Aedra, the Gods of Men and Beast Folk, led by Akatosh...'

Which pretty much confirms it.

This means that the Aedra are Akatosh, Julianos, Arkay (Although Arkay is said to have been a man once), Kyraneth, Mara, Dibella, Stendarr and Zenithar.

Oops! Perhaps I should learn to read huh? ;)

Sotha Sil is in the hidden clock-work city of Sotha Sil on mainland Morrowind, while Almalexia is in Almalexia on mainland Morrowind.

-Striker

jstnomega on 25/7/2002 at 01:53

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Actually, the dwarves live on, kindasorta. Was going door-to-door in Dagon Fel & came across some unlocked hut belonging to someone whose name I don't recall but whom was described as a 1/2 dwarf. Was on my way back to the Azura Shrine so haven't yet entered to have a peak at this character. 1/2 dwarf + 1/2 what = what?

Nazz on 25/7/2002 at 05:03

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I'm jumping onto this thread a little late but Striker's post on the official forums peaked my interest so I thought I would check the thread out.

First off the Dunmer/Chimer have never worshiped the Aedra. Thats the whole reason they broke away from the Altmer in the first place. Secondly I see your character in Morrowind to be simply a champion of Azura and not really Indoril Nerevar reborn. If you were really Nerevar reborn surely Azura wouldn't bring you back as an Outlander. Also you dont seem to know you are him so I find it unlikely that you are.

Another thing I dont really think that Boethia Azura and Mephala actually alighned themselves with the Tribunal. I think all that "anticipations" stuff was made up by the Tribunal to try and make the transition from the old traditions to the new smoother for the common mer. I mean have you seen Boethia's shrine, do you really think he cares about the Three who let his temple go to the crapper.

One last thing here is a post that I made in a similar thread on the official forums defending the Tribunal for what they did.

"Ultimately I think they did what they had to do for the overall good of the Dunmer. I think when they first battled Ur in Red Mountain they realized that the tools had warped Ur beyond saving and that he would later become a threat to the soon to be Dunmer. Also the Dunmers relationship with the Daedra was not always a prosperous one. So seeing that there was a need for not only persons of power to face the threats of the land but also new figures to look to for leadership, the Tribunal used the tools to fit those needs.

Think about it if the Tribunal was not around during the wars with the Imperials Morrowind would be alot different than it is now. There would have been no Armistice meaning most likely that the Dunmer would be under strict Imperial rule, instead of the let them rule themselves set up they currently have. Also there would have been noone to stop the invasion of Ada'Soom, since Almalexia is specificly credited with stoping the invasion (with a little help from the Underking).

In my opinion their one mistake truly was that they considered themselves gods and tried to pass it off (at least Vivec did) that they were always gods. If they had just played the "we are really powerfull ruler guys" role like they should have instead of acting like divinity they would be ok in my book. "

Sorry for such a long post.:cheeky:

Forsythe on 25/7/2002 at 05:41

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Welcome, Nazz ;) I agree on most everything you said, but I've got to quibble over a few things you said...


If you really were Nerevar reborn, wouldn't being born an outlander be a really cruel dig at the xenophobic shell most Dunmer walk around within? Azura can be a sly and very nasty one when she wants to get a point across (ie: pull your heads out!). As to not knowing... this one can swing either way, depending solely upon the player's point of view (you have the choice of declaring, at the end, that you are Nerevar reborn). Me, I think that's a very clever and subtle point but regretfully acknowledge that most will miss it.


*grin* Hardly something to be sorry for around here ;)