Fafhrd on 12/1/2010 at 08:59
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
That doesn't change the fact that rebooting a successful franchise less than ten years old is fucking retarded.
Had Raimi been able to make Spider-Man 4 and close out his version of the franchise on a high note I don't see what the problem is. All the key players would have been doing Spider-Man for 10 years, and really 10 years and 4 films feels about the right length for a franchise. Having mid- to late-thirties Tobey Maguire donning the spandex
again would be pushing the levels of ridiculousness a bit far.
Doing a reboot immediately is also a very superhero comic thing to do as well (and rumour is (
http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/18422/1/FOX-HITS-THE-ULTIMATE-NULLIFIER-ON-FANTASTIC-FOUR/Page1.html) Fox is planning the exact same thing with Fantastic Four), and if the reboot actually brings something original or clever to the table, then there's no real problem. And come on, the guy who wrote
Zodiac is doing the reboot screenplay. Set in high school or no, I have a hard time imagining that guy writing a tween-oriented script. (And by 2012, (
http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/0/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page0.html) Breaking Dawn (god, we're just linking to Chud all over in this thread) will have come out and the tween market will implode in a riotous psychotic frenzy).
I'm reserving judgement until they've got a director and a cast. I don't have much faith in Sony to not fuck this up, but there's a slim chance something interesting can come of it.
SD on 12/1/2010 at 10:00
Haven't the comics themselves been doing this for years? Endless retreads and re-imaginings, different continuities, disparate character histories and even appearance. It was only a matter of time before they brought that kind of cynical moneymaking ploy to the movies too.
Stitch on 12/1/2010 at 15:56
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
That doesn't change the fact that rebooting a successful franchise less than ten years old is fucking retarded.
Spider-man 3 really left you hungry for another film from the same team? Christ, this reboot is the first thing I've heard about Spider-man 4 that actually makes it sound potentially worth seeing.
Don't get me wrong, Spider-man 1 and 2 were solid, and even 3 was not without its charms. But the Raimi/Maguire/Dunst incarnation of the franchise has clearly run its course and it's time for new blood.
Scots Taffer on 12/1/2010 at 22:46
Sure, but does new blood mean going back to high school and potentially revising the characters all over again?
Just because the comics do it doesn't make it any less creatively bankrupt.
I'm serious when I say this sounds like Spideyville. Teenage Peter full of hormonal angst for MJ and the parallel for his puberty in spider powers giving rise to Joss Whedonish aspects more suited to a TV show than a movie.
Anyway, I thought Spiderman 3 was an abomination as I said above, which I largely hold the studio responsible for (practically everyone knows Sony rammed the Venom plotline down their throat - though that doesn't exactly excuse the shitty Sandman backstory), and I don't think the Raimi/Maguire combo had lost all of its charm and potential personally.
Stitch on 12/1/2010 at 23:12
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
I'm serious when I say this sounds like Spideyville. Teenage Peter full of hormonal angst for MJ and the parallel for his puberty in spider powers giving rise to Joss Whedonish aspects more suited to a TV show than a movie.
Fine by me, as long as it's handled well and presented in a compelling matter. Speculating on whether or not that will be the case is kind of silly considering the movie is little more than a press release at this point. This movie could get phenomenal talent attached, or it could fall in the hands of Michael Bay. Alternately, it could shift around Hollywood incessantly until it is altered beyond recognition (or dropped entirely).
What isn't speculation, however, is this: for good or for bad, Spider-Man 3 wrapped up Raimi's take on the franchise and it's time to pass it along to someone with a fresh perspective. Even when talk of Spider-Man 4 first started I couldn't fathom why Raimi and company would want to do another one, and as it turns out they don't.
SubJeff on 12/1/2010 at 23:24
Give it to Lynch, it'll be awesome.
Chimpy Chompy on 13/1/2010 at 13:02
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Having mid- to late-thirties Tobey Maguire donning the spandex
again would be pushing the levels of ridiculousness a bit far.
Well he started the series in his mid-20s trying to pass off as highschooler, although I guess that's fairly common in movies and tv anyway.
Anyway tho agreed re: the sentiment that if we're going to see more Spiderman, a reboot is the best way to go.
SD on 13/1/2010 at 14:01
I would have liked to have seen a fourth one with the original cast, for one thing they left the Lizard storyline unresolved.
