Apache on 13/9/2002 at 00:35
I was asked to post this as a favor to a friend..The definition of Speechcraft leads one to believe that if you don't have a high speechcraft you'll miss out on tasks..
Quote:
Speechcraft
Those skilled in speechcraft influence others by admiring, intimidating, and taunting them.
Listeners are more willing to divulge information or to entrust important tasks to the skilled speaker.Governing Attribute: Personality
Does anyone know if this is true or is he reading to far into it? I personally don't bother much with speechcraft.
Skronk on 13/9/2002 at 00:52
It's true. The most obvious/beneficial use of Speechcraft is 'admiring' shopkeepers to raise their disposition so they will pay more for your goods, or you pay less for services.
It really works wonders when you admire that enchanter to 100% disp. You'll save a bundle on enchanting.
Many other uses as well. :)
-edit- I guess I didn't answer your question though... :sweat: I have never played a low-speechcraft char, so I wouldn't know if some quests are unavailable at lower levels..
-edit2- However, when I did the 'bad people' quest with my Nord Knight (speechcraft 55 - Personality 70) I just talked to an NPC in the South Wall Cornerclub, and got all the info I needed.
This time however, My char has 45 speechcraft and 55 personality, and no-one will tell me anything... so I dunno. :)
Forsythe on 13/9/2002 at 00:57
*nod* Very true; additionally, many quests become dramatically easier if the NPC likes you. Often you can't even complete the quest until a given NPC likes you 70% or more. This becomes less needed as your reputation increases (and thus the average NPC disposition increases), but your reputation rarely increases outside of quests, so it's a bit circular there.
Kilana on 13/9/2002 at 02:14
If you dont have the speechcraft skill at a decent level, telvanni bug musk is always an option, though if your reputation is low, you might have to bathe in the stuff...
Fred Chook on 13/9/2002 at 04:48
I know for a fact a lot of quests and interactions work best with a high Speechcraft, any walkthrough could probably tell you several similar points. Plus my high Personality high Speechcraft imperial was one of the most successful characters I've ever played.
Nimue on 13/9/2002 at 04:56
I consider speechcraft important enough so that, regardless of what other skills I might pick, I always leave a major skill slot open for speechcraft. I also like to select the Lady as my character's sign because of the boost in personality it gives. Of course, the constitution boost doesn't help either.
The speechcraft helps improve the reaction you get from NPCs, but the extra personality you get from the Lady helps too. Imperials who choose the lady tend to have at least a 64 disposition with everyone except the jerky ordinators.
Farouk on 13/9/2002 at 07:34
There are some alternatives to Speechcraft:
Making a Fortify Personality potion (Alchemy skill), Fortify Personality spell (Restoration skill), Charm spell (Illusion skill) or making / using an enchanted item with Charm or Fortify Personality (Enchanting skill).
WingedKagouti on 13/9/2002 at 09:11
The difference between Fortify Personality and Charm is that when Fortify Personality wears off then whomever you have talked with while it was active will drop considerably more in disposition than you gained. The Charm spell however is permanent eg. a Charm 10-10 1 second spell will permanently raise the disposition of the target by 10 (and it only costs 5 magicka), this is contrary to what was apparently intended by the developers so it might change in a future patch.
IMO Speechcraft is useless when faced with the options you get from Illusion.
BHxPrexus on 13/9/2002 at 20:29
lol yes, trust me, speechcraft is good, i play an orc barbarian (and thats like hahahahaha) every time i get a level i train my speechcraft as high as i can.
