heretic on 1/12/2007 at 23:35
Or simply read the available material on the subject and at least come to an informed conclusion.
catbarf on 2/12/2007 at 00:13
Which I have. And in case you didn't realize, your own eyes are a far more valid resource than a report filed by a group of security personnel who didn't want to be fired.
So, what? You're telling me that because a report says that he was screaming like a lunatic and waving an assault rifle that the video is somehow invalidated?
heretic on 2/12/2007 at 00:26
No, but any worthwhile claims of "abuse of force" are.
SubJeff on 2/12/2007 at 03:20
Do you even bother reading the stuff you link to?
Read section 776.05. The guy was face down and cuffed. Do you think he represented any risk of harm to the police?
Swiss Mercenary on 2/12/2007 at 04:23
He may have had a detonator wired to his bomb belt.
mxleader on 2/12/2007 at 04:38
Quote Posted by catbarf
But what does it matter? Abuse of force is still abuse of force, no matter how much they deserve it. If, say, Saddam Hussein had been tortured for days before his execution there'd have been uproar. However, according to you and the others here, everyone would just nod and say 'Well he deserved it' and go along.
Comparing Hussein to a loud mouth college student is comparing apples to oranges. Yeah, maybe the student didn't deserve such rough treatment, but considering past intances of campus violence they are probably not taking any chances. Does that make it right or wrong? Who knows?
catbarf on 2/12/2007 at 04:47
Quote Posted by mxleader
but considering past intances of campus violence they are probably not taking any chances.
Indeed, hundreds of people every day are killed by college students held on the floor and surrounded by security officers. Better not take any chances, he might have lasers for eyes.
SubJeff on 2/12/2007 at 08:34
Ha ha. Word. Honestly people, do some of you guys even think about the situation before giving cookie cutter cop answers?
PAST EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN US THAT IF YOU DON'T ACT PEOPLE DIE!
But officer, she's 5!
PAST EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN US THAT IF YOU DON'T ACT PEOPLE DIE!
Whatever
heretic on 2/12/2007 at 08:39
Hooray for hyperbole!
Selkie on 2/12/2007 at 15:25
Tbh heretic, you've already shown in your attitude to the incident that you don't really care for discussion, civil liberties or debate so your narrow-minded and reactionary reply above comes as no surprise to anyone. :erg:
HOORAY FOR FREEDOM OH WATE... GO PATRIOT ACT GO!
