South Dakota abortion ban. Thoughts? - by fett
Convict on 12/3/2006 at 09:53
Whaaaa.....
1) This is TTLG. Please address issues as TTLG debates distinct from BCG debates - but please post in the fossil fuels thread on BCG as you wish.
2) Your anecdotal evidence does not contradict me since:
a) anecdotal evidence cannot be considered
b) it is in a different country with different politics
3) The leader of the teachers' union of Australia said that there is a progressive agenda in the public education system. You seem to reply to this unsavoury information with what can perhaps be described as trolling. Try arguing the facts instead plz k thx.
Rug Burn Junky on 12/3/2006 at 15:12
Quote Posted by aguywhoplaysthief
In case you weren't aware, conservatives spend quite a lot of time talking about how "the past/present was/is wrong."
ie.
[INDENT]"Drinking is evil, and we'd all be much better off if the whole country banned it."
"Roosevelt was an evil communist."
"Joe McCarthy was right."
"Nixon was innocent."
"Brown v. Board of Ed was a poor decision."
"I'm allowed to decide who to spy on and when all on my own, no matter what some silly 'law' says."[/INDENT]
and my favorite,
[INDENT]"We're all going to die if we don't spend hundreds of billions of dollars trying to get rid of those weapons that we know Saddam Hussein has after he helped out in 9/11 (even though everyone else knows he doesn't and he didn't)."[/INDENT]
So yeah, they spend a lot of time talking about how the past/present is/was wrong. The rest of us are "reality based." ;)
aguywhoplaysthief on 12/3/2006 at 19:19
Quote Posted by Swiss Mercenary
Most of my teachers held left-leaning views. Shocking. Did they preach them? No. Some of them held mostly conservative opinions. Did they preach them? No.
How exactly did you know what their political views were then?
Uncia on 12/3/2006 at 20:42
I imagine the difference between "expressing" and "preaching" is the key to your answer.
Swiss Mercenary on 12/3/2006 at 21:22
Quote Posted by aguywhoplaysthief
How exactly did you know what their political views were then?
By, like, talking with them about, like, current issues, and stuff.
Convict on 12/3/2006 at 21:23
But as the President of the Australian teachers Union says, it is the
curriculum which has the progressive bias. However, Professor Sawyer (President of NSW English teachers association) seems to be advocating progressive indoctrination. (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1418254#post1418254) Quotes here
SD on 12/3/2006 at 21:28
Have you got any examples of this supposed indoctrination?
Convict on 12/3/2006 at 21:35
I'd suggest asking Ms Byrne about that one StD.
BTW this (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4792428.stm) BBC article seems to use some bias when it terms people "anti-abortion" and "pro-choice". It's customary to use neutral terms such as pro-life and pro-choice rather than anti-abortion or pro-abortion.
Vigil on 12/3/2006 at 21:45
Quote Posted by Convict
However, Professor Sawyer (President of NSW English teachers association) seems to be advocating progressive indoctrination.
No, he doesn't
seem to be doing anything of the sort. What he
seems to be doing is making a snide jab in an nonrepresentative context: that the only way the Coalition government could have gotten elected is if young people have no hearts and no brains. It's a pretty big step from a teacher's association leader writing that students must lack critical thinking skills or humanity in order to support conservatism to a teacher's association leader advocating the political indoctrination of students.
And god forbid that anyone in a position of responsibility have political leanings or opinions of their own independent of the organisation they represent. Headmaster writes letters to the paper about Those Bloody Conservatives? Better investigate the school!
