Forsythe on 3/8/2002 at 19:12
Hmm.. the "Shadow"-type potions have the Chameleon spell effect, so yup, they'd be cumulative with other Chameleon spell effects. (Invisibility isn't cumulative with Chameleon)
Zaphod on 3/8/2002 at 20:41
If you pick her pocket cleanly, she still "knows" you stole it, according to her dialogue thread (which strikes me as sloppy writing/coding). But she doesn't scream bloody murder and, oddly, her Attitude towards you doesn't go down at all.
But she won't take the book back (I figured if there was a way to pick pockets, there must be a way to put things back in pocket too - no such luck). I have yet to try and give it back to her after killing Eleina Nasty-Shorts... just about to do that now... as soon as someone responds to my (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54576) thread about it...
jkgecko on 4/8/2002 at 08:40
Whoa, I tried to pick pocket her and although unsuccessful (she knew and attacked me) she didn't have the damn book. This is starting to piss me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I about to kill that damn fighter guild b**ch for giving me this dumb quest. ARRRRGGGGGG!
jkgecko on 4/8/2002 at 08:45
Would that Telvani Bug Musk help me convince sottilde to give me the book?
WingedKagouti on 4/8/2002 at 11:45
Telvanni Bug Musk fortifies your Personality by 40 thus helping your Speechcraft and initial reaction. She still wont hand over the book if you are a member of both guilds though. Just do some more TG quests and you should be able to skip that particular problem.
Hanse on 4/8/2002 at 13:18
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Originally posted by jkgecko Whoa, I tried to pick pocket her and although unsuccessful (she knew and attacked me) she didn't have the damn book. This is starting to piss me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I about to kill that damn fighter guild b**ch for giving me this dumb quest. ARRRRGGGGGG! Hmm.. I think I remember seeing somewhere that depending on your pickpocket skill (I think that might be your "security" skill, but I don't remember for sure.. Foysythe?), you get access to different random items when you use your pickpocket skill. I know when I did it, the code book appeared in her inventory the first time and I was able to grab it. But I believe that if you try multiple times (without getting caught of course), it will come up eventually. And I don't think you ever get access to the NPC's full inventory via that method, like you would from just looting a corpse.
Primussucks on 4/8/2002 at 18:08
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At last resort, you can indeed kill her... but don't just hack at her. Taunt her or use "Frenzy Humanoid" to make her attack you; then noone should join in.
Or... you could Frenzy/Taunt her into attacking you, then use Hand to hand to knock her out, take the book off from her, and run away. That way you wont actually kill her. She'll still be pissed at you, but i'm sure you'll get over it.:p
Forsythe on 4/8/2002 at 20:34
Hanse: Yup, 'tis Security; the higher it is, the more 'selection' you have to choose from, though (as you suggested) you never have access to their worn/wielded items via just pick-pocketing. (though there are ways around that... search on here for 'daedric cuirass' if anyone's curious, as one of our nuttier members found a way ;))
Primussucks: *laugh* Good point ;)
Nate the Great on 8/8/2002 at 00:39
when I did the Fighters Guild thing ( I am Guild Master now), I was able to talk Sottilde into giving me the book. I used Musk and then if I remember correctly, I intimidated her into giving it to me. Try it. Good luck my young apprentice!!!!!!!;)
Forsythe on 8/8/2002 at 04:02
Nate: If you're a member of the Thieves' Guild she won't. The person asking was part of the Thieves' Guild. Enough said?
