Aja on 6/5/2018 at 02:59
It's not disingenuous. It's weariness from spending the last five years or so trying to figure out how I can help someone I care deeply about who refuses to get the help they need makes me feel like a piece of shit for not doing the completely un-doable things they demand of me. I apologize. It's not your thing; it's mine. I'm genuinely glad you're getting help. I wish I could say the same of my brother. Therapists don't always know how to respond, but if you keep advocating for yourself, you'll eventually get the help you need.
hedonicflux~~ on 6/5/2018 at 03:07
Quote Posted by Aja
It's not disingenuous. It's weariness from spending the last five years or so trying to figure out how I can help someone I care deeply about who refuses to get the help they need makes me feel like a piece of shit for not doing the completely un-doable things they demand of me. I apologize. It's not your thing; it's mine. I'm genuinely glad you're getting help. I wish I could say the same of my brother. Therapists don't always know how to respond, but if you keep advocating for yourself, you'll eventually get the help you need.
If you don't mind me asking, does he really demand that you help him without knowing what that involves?
Aja on 6/5/2018 at 03:18
The way he asks for help is by insisting that we (his family) agree with what he believes to be true. For instance, he thinks that all of his possessions are infected with mold from a house he lived in two years ago that had water problems. He thinks whenever something that was in that house touches something else, it becomes moldy and has to be either disinfected (his current treatment of choice is beeswax) or discarded. He thinks that he's hyper sensitive to mold and that it causes a range of physical symptoms. If you try to explain to him that it's more likely that he's developed a mold obsession and that the focus of his treatment should be dealing with the obsessive thoughts rather than the mold itself, he literally screams at you to go fuck yourself, storms upstairs, and slams his door so hard it has broken several times. As someone who deals with obsessive thoughts himself, I refuse to affirm my brother's obsessions. But then he accuses me of being a terrible brother/friend/whatever, of not giving him the support he needs. It's not as believable when I type it out as when he actually talks to me. He's a master of manipulation, for me particularly, and it's taken me several years to realize it and to realize that the only way I can deal with it without experiencing trauma myself is to ignore it. And then, of course, the guilt about that sets in.
hedonicflux~~ on 6/5/2018 at 03:45
I'm sorry to hear about what you go through with him. Your brother isn't as smart as me; I understand that it's a problem with my mind.
But on a side note, I'd like to mention that mental illness has been steadily increasing, which is almost hard proof that yes, the society people are subjected to has something to do with it.
Aja on 6/5/2018 at 03:50
He's smarter than I give him credit for. That's what makes it so difficult. I can't really explain it because I'm not him. Sometimes I think he's smarter than I am, just misdirected somehow. It's easy for me to compartmentalize what he says, but when you actually talk to him, it's different. Anyway, that's not the issue here. Sorry for dumping my own shit on you.
Renault on 6/5/2018 at 04:56
I'm sorry, I'm sure some of your problems are real hedonic, but I just cannot take anyone seriously who brags and boasts about how intelligent they are. I'll spare you the Hawking quote.
The only thing I can really comment on is this - there have always been issues and problems with whatever the current societal situation is. Some people adapt and survive, and others don't. Connect that however you will with the previous sentence.
Sulphur on 6/5/2018 at 05:18
Coupla notes off the cuff: it's good that you recognise you have issues. They're blocking you from coming across as the person you think you are, however.
Someone with empathy would know that a post that comes across as derision mixed with smarmy superiority immediately undercuts any point they're trying to make to their potential audience. If you're the type who notices that global warming is a concern, then you should also understand the actual timescales involved instead of holding up a board that says we're all fucked in the near term. Instead of feeding whatever catastrophe du jour into your current mode of apocalyptic solipsism, try using that information to focus on something constructive instead. The world's limited to a selection bias only if that's how you want it to be.
hedonicflux~~ on 6/5/2018 at 07:56
"People who boast about their IQs are losers." There.
And I didn't intend to brag about my intelligence, merely to put it in the context of being trapped in what I think is likely the dumbest society in history, and express that it's a great source of pain for me.
Sulphur: Timescales are unknown because the models are being outpaced by reality for reasons scientists are just discovering, or don't even understand yet. The main concern that is making the models irrelevant and too optimistic is the feedback loop effect between different elements of the climate system. Fucking up one element of the system speeds up the degredation of another, because it's all inter-related. And apparently this is news to climate scientists. But I don't want to talk about this more unless two people here voice approval, because it's depressing and it frankly gives me no hope. Don't want to push that on anyone else. (Sorry if I kinda already did...)
Sulphur on 6/5/2018 at 08:30
I'm not a scientist, but taking even a cursory look at the data doesn't suggest all the models are optimistic or irrelevant even if you happen to be sampling weather models by living all over the planet at the same time. Anyway, yeah, I'm not up for talking about this either because there's nothing interesting or healthy about cherry-picking data to enable nihilism for its own sake -- not for me, not for you, and not for anyone.
PigLick on 6/5/2018 at 13:28
You arent a scientist? All this time I thought you were, fuck you for leading me on