theBlackman on 31/8/2009 at 18:45
One evening an old Cherokee indian told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, "My son, the battle is between two 'wolves' inside us all.
One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."
nickie on 31/8/2009 at 18:53
:) Thank you.
R Soul on 31/8/2009 at 20:02
I get the point, but there's nothing wrong with anger, sorrow, regret or guilt. It's what we do with those feelings that counts.
BrokenArts on 31/8/2009 at 20:13
Oh we can't help but feed them both from time to time, we're human. Now where is my 2 3 wolf moon t-shirt.
fett on 31/8/2009 at 20:29
Simple but awesome, Blackman. The ironic thing I've found is that spiritualism and religion tend to offer people a shortcut to the Good Wolf (be changed instantly! Become a new person!). I used to get very frustrated because I couldn't "grow" in all of those good things. Because of my beliefs and environment, I was feeding the Bad Wolf. There are no shortcuts - it takes time for the Wolf to grow and it's easier to feed it when you're not depending on some supernatural power to do it for you.
Kolya on 31/8/2009 at 21:01
So Cherokees are stuck with the same useless western dialectics as everyone else? Well that answers the question if you should ask them for advice after the old Satan/Jesus dichotomy got a bit too obvious for you.
theBlackman on 31/8/2009 at 21:10
Quote Posted by Kolya
So Cherokees are stuck with the same useless western dialectics as everyone else? Well that answers the question if you should ask them for advice after the old Satan/Jesus dichotomy got a bit too obvious for you.
I knew one of you would show up after a while. Religion is not the topic, had not been mentioned, and invariably some idiot starts spouting off.
Usually it's you. And my usual response to your "offerings" is :bored:
In this case I just had to :laff::laff:
CCCToad on 31/8/2009 at 21:41
Quote Posted by fett
Simple but awesome, Blackman. The ironic thing I've found is that spiritualism and religion tend to offer people a shortcut to the Good Wolf (be changed instantly! Become a new person!). I used to get very frustrated because I couldn't "grow" in all of those good things. Because of my beliefs and environment, I was feeding the Bad Wolf. There are no shortcuts - it takes time for the Wolf to grow and it's easier to feed it when you're not depending on some supernatural power to do it for you.
Its something I see a lot down here, since the strongest religious sect (Southern baptists) are very aggressive in preaching the "saved" doctrine, that you pray once to accept and from that point no matter what you do you are guaranteed salvation. its happened more than once where someone is getting along great with me, until they find out I'm Catholic. It was particularly dissapointing when it was a hot girl.
I don't really see how they can justify it, since one of the most commonly discussed parables of Jesus goes against that idea (the sower of seeds). Plus, he constantly talks about you have to actually live like you love god instead of just professing you do. My second issue is how it affects their mentality: it leads to a self-righteous, belligerent "I'm guaranteed to be saved, you're going to hell!" mentality that is very different from the Catholic "everyone is a sinner and needs to constantly work on improving themselves" attitude that I am used to. That and the catholic church teaches (read the catechism) that you can be "saved" without being catholic if you faithfully adhere to the tenets of your own religion.