nicked on 18/5/2015 at 05:47
Only if said half-wit had any idea point 1 existed. I'd never heard of any Assassin's Creed stuff being leaked, I'm sure others haven't either.
Shadowhide on 18/5/2015 at 07:05
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So which edition of Assassin's Creed Syndicate will you buy?
Torrent edition with all pre-order bonuses unlocked and day 1 dlc
just kidding
Fallen+Keeper on 18/5/2015 at 16:57
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1. Info and screenshots of an Assassin's Creed game set in Victorian London where you can ride horse-drawn carriages get leaked to the press.
2. Some months later an Assassin's Creed game set in Victorian London where you can ride horse-drawn carriages get officially announced.
1. There are two Assassin's Creed games that take place in Italy. For those completely uninterested in the games the screenshots might seem to be from the same game.
2. See above.
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Even a halfwit can connect those dot.
Even a halfwit would see that similar remarks make you feel cool and smart, but there is really no reason to be offensive. It's just a game, yes?
Slasher on 20/5/2015 at 01:40
ULTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVIOLENCE!!!
faetal on 20/5/2015 at 13:21
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Made it about half an hour into Brotherhood before realizing I was playing the same game for the third time. So that, Revelations, III, and IV still sit unplayed and I'm absolutely not touching another one until/unless I finish those.
This, pretty much. Except that I'm half way through III. I have 4 to play after this, which is meant to be a riot and I'm genuinely looking forward to it, but everything I've heard about Unity so far, coupled with the workmanlike (similar to CoD) way they seem to be churning the sequels out doesn't make me think that they're really doing this out of love so much as milking a cash cow. If I have to play games which iteratively add little more than a few new mechanics and a quasi-historical re-skin just to edge some disjointed meta-story along, I think I'd prefer someone's summation in the form of a web comic.
Thirith on 20/5/2015 at 13:52
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... the workmanlike (similar to CoD) way they seem to be churning the sequels out doesn't make me think that they're really doing this out of love so much as milking a cash cow. If I have to play games which iteratively add little more than a few new mechanics and a quasi-historical re-skin just to edge some disjointed meta-story along, I think I'd prefer someone's summation in the form of a web comic.
Except I don't really see that. They've made questionable creative decisions, but these games are chock-full of love for the worlds they create. There's a fuckton of research that goes into the games (which doesn't mean that they're historically accurate, but they definitely do the research before they decide to drop this, that and the other), there are new ideas and gameplay mechanisms, there's a lot of writing. Granted, the writing is uneven at best and leaden at worst, and the new gameplay often is boring to actually play, but the
Assassin's Creed games are an embarrassment of riches in so many ways. That's not what I associate with a cash-cow franchise. What I get from the games is a love for what they do, mixed with huge helpings of game design that is way too pedestrian for its own good and disastrous QA. If they wanted a cashcow, there'd surely be easier ways of doing it, because these games are behemoths in terms of content and logistics.
Fallen+Keeper on 20/5/2015 at 14:40
Hmmm... Personally I wouldn't go so far as to call "new gameplay mechanisms" whatever they didn't manage to squeeze into an AC game yet. After all those iterations I can only see those additions as desperate attempts at making a rotten meat still smell fresh - Naval section was an entirely new game though, true. But everything else is just a smoke mirror. But you're right - there are tonnes of research of architecture, which is the only thing genuinely new in every AC title.
In my opinion writing was great until Brotherhood, started to loose momentum in Revelations and lost it completely halfway into AC3.
And it wouldn't be a "cash-cow" if there wasn't an ounce of quality in these games... but really, Ubisoft invented that term.
faetal on 20/5/2015 at 15:08
I think the first few games oozed love. I even liked Revelations a lot more than I was led to believe I should. AC3 feels every bit as detailed and well-researched as the previous games, but that doesn't require love of the job, it just requires skilled people being paid to do it. I have no idea what the hell they were thinking with Conor as a character too. The guy is a piece of wood with zero character. All I get from him lately is that he has no real feelings about anything and is only being impelled to continue with is actions because some fucko keeps firing up the game and controlling his limbs for fun. It doesn't feel like they made the game with love, it feels like thay made the game based on what focus groups and marketing guys decided would keep the series fresh. Sure with the naval game, they actually hit on something really decent, but the general over-arching idea behind the games seems to have become "keep making the games" and little else. It doesn't feel like with each new game, they are extracting untapped potential or improving to the extent that they really don't feel that the series has played itself out, just "keep making the games until people stop buying the games".
Maybe Black Flag will totally change my mind, but after that, it doesn't sound like Unity really did much which hadn't already been done and Rogue / Cockney just seem like they're going to be more of the same Ubisoft "chase the map marker" games as JM puts it. I'd love to be proven wrong, but as it stands, after I've finished ACIV, I can't think of why I'd invest the money, or more importantly the time in another AC game without some seriously glowing reviews.
Thirith on 20/5/2015 at 15:39
Oh, they're definitely not *improving* the games much, but I see their failure as one in execution (no pun intended). If they wanted to go for a cash cow, I maintain that there'd be much easier ways of doing so. Assassin's Creed fails in several ways and improves in very few, but it's not for lack of trying IMO. The players don't help, because by and large what some love others hate. There are only a few things that fans agree on being bad.
henke on 18/6/2015 at 19:54
[video=youtube;HNguwYXQXuQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNguwYXQXuQ[/video]
I'm liking what I see here. The horse carriage fights, the train, the Batman-like traversal gadgets! Most of all I really like the locations, and the prospect of visiting London of that era.