So... no World Cup thread yet? (also featuring TTLG fantasy world cup game)

Shevers on 5/7/2006 at 22:25

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But I desagree about Portugal not winning because of that. The French didn't make a better show either. And taking into account that we dominated the game, it was more possible for Portugal to score than France. But they got the penalty, and thats life.

My point is they might have scored a few if they had a better strikeforce.

I also love how Ronaldo has become the scapegoat for England losing this year. Scotland is lolling at you guys down south :thumb:

Myoldnamebroke on 5/7/2006 at 22:29

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Hum...enlighten me. I though it was a walking stick. Too lazy to get a dictionary or google it.

It's a haircut. The most hilarious haircut there is!

Also, I don't think anyone has used Ronaldo as a scapegoat - everything I've heard has acknowledge that spudhead was stupid. However, while not the excuse for England losing, everyone does recognise that he's a twit.

SD on 5/7/2006 at 22:30

Quote Posted by Shevers

Scotland is lolling at you guys down south :thumb:

I don't really think Scotland is in any position to laugh at another nation's football prowess!

The only disappointing thing about Portugal going out of the tournament is that we won't get to see their reserve keeper, Quim, play :(

I hear he's a real twat

Gorgon on 5/7/2006 at 22:33

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heheh.

Yes, they had a lot of oportunities to score, much more than France, but we didn't do a good job at finalizing them. Actually, England played much better than France with us. In that game there was really no clear winner and we won by chance, just as England could have won. But in this game we clearly dominated more than France, although France had an EXCELLENT middle-field and defense. But anyway, France was no candidate to score playing like that and if it wans't for that penalty the game would probably go unsolved till the final resolution by penalties or maybe Portugal could have scored in the next 30 minutes because we were more domineering in the game. Who knows.

Gorgon on 5/7/2006 at 22:35

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totally agree with you.

Shevers on 5/7/2006 at 22:39

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I don't really think Scotland is in any position to laugh at another nation's football prowess!

We are more into laughing at the hilarious commentary teams, pundits, and of course newspapers which have finally regrouped and launched the attack against Ronaldo because HE WINKED AT THE BENCH and complained about Rooney's foul. You can't deny the hilarity :joke:

And the current generation of Scots are well too used to our own nation's hopeless state to give a fuck right now.

SD on 5/7/2006 at 22:47

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Well, you can actually deny the "hilarity". Ronaldo deserves all the flak he is getting, and if you can't see that, you patently know nothing about the gentlemanly aspects of football.

Trying to get another player sent off is bad enough. When that guy is a team-mate and friend of yours, it's pretty shitty. Ronaldo has been singled out, but really it's the entire Portuguese team's cynical approach to the game that is typefied in that one individual which is being lambasted.

A caller to BBC Radio 5's 606 programme pointed out one reason why England will struggle in major tournaments - because they're not prepared to cheat. Italy and France have both got to the final by cheating, as anyone who has seen Grosso's dive against Australia or Henry's dives against Spain and Portugal knows only too well.

D'Arcy on 5/7/2006 at 22:52

Again France. Again Zidane. Again a stupid penalty. Portugal: proudly losing semi-finals to France since 1984 :p

Shevers on 5/7/2006 at 22:52

Quote Posted by Strontium Dog

Well, you can actually deny the "hilarity". Ronaldo deserves all the flak he is getting, and if you can't see that, you patently know nothing about the gentlemanly aspects of football.

Trying to get another player sent off is bad enough. When that guy is a team-mate and friend of yours, it's pretty shitty. Ronaldo has been singled out, but really it's the entire Portuguese team's cynical approach to the game that is typefied in that one individual which is being lambasted.

I still haven't saw the evidence that Ronaldo tried to get Rooney sent off. I'm prepared to be proved wrong here, but what I saw was Ronaldo run over to complain to the referee - fair enough - and so no evidence of him demanding a card. He also said afterwards that all he did was say it was a foul. You don't go by what the player says obviously, but this has been completely ignored as everyone clammers to condemn him for getting Rooney sent off.

That's where I see the hilarity - the almost desperate race for a scapegoat.

SD on 5/7/2006 at 22:59

Quote Posted by Shevers

I still haven't saw the evidence that Ronaldo tried to get Rooney sent off. I'm prepared to be proved wrong here, but what I saw was Ronaldo run over to complain to the referee - fair enough - and so no evidence of him demanding a card. He also said afterwards that all he did was say it was a foul. You don't go by what the player says obviously, but this has been completely ignored as everyone clammers to condemn him for getting Rooney sent off.

That's just it - it's not "fair enough". Ronaldo had no business whatsoever getting involved. Any decision is the referee's to make, and players shouldn't be badgering the referee to give decisions their way.

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That's where I see the hilarity - the almost desperate race for a scapegoat.

You can blame the British media for that. Yes, British, not English, because half of these journalists aren't even English, they just want to sell papers. If you ask the man on the street who he blames for England's exit from the World Cup, people will tell you the manager and/or the players were to blame.

Blaming English people for media hysteria caused by Scottish journalists writing for Australian-owned newspapers is a bit cheeky...