henke on 5/4/2016 at 05:39
Quote Posted by Tocky
You told him he SHOULD convert to Islam to save his soul as if you know the mind of God/Allah implying he would go to hell otherwise.
No I'm pretty sure it was a simple suggestion. The correct response, if you disagree with it, would be to ignore it, but for some reason you and Queue took it as an invitation to start slinging Islamophobic slurs. Please knock it off, because you're both looking like real shitheads right now.
Tocky on 5/4/2016 at 06:00
No. He said SHOULD and HAVE TO. fett has had enough people tell him what he SHOULD and HAVE TO do to go to heaven. And I don't care what you think I look like. Nothing I said was wrong. Harsh maybe. But I never said I wanted anyones face to be smashed with a hammer. The off with his head thing was a joke unlike ISIS who are going to paradise just because they are Muslim.
henke on 5/4/2016 at 07:26
You push a guy until he has an outburst and then you call him violent. You write off your own threats as jokes while taking his Hammerite-quotes at face value. Don't you see how your preexisting views on muslims is coloring this whole interaction, and how you are making sure they are being reinforced by it?
Sulphur on 5/4/2016 at 07:42
I think there are a lot of assumptions going on here, but two things are clear:
1) This thread does not need religious dialogue, views, proselytisation, or anything leading from them, so please stop.
2) BruderMurus's initial post here was in bad taste, whether he knows it or not, and the best response to it should have been, as henke said, to ignore it instead of calling attention to it in unhealthy mudslinging.
All I know is I want fett to be well. More power to him that this eventuates. <3
Dia on 5/4/2016 at 11:51
I agree, Sulphur. But sometimes it's very hard to ignore the trolls, especially when it seems as though they're making it personal.
Love ya fett! You're in my thoughts and prayers (Christine and the boys, too), whether you want to be or not. <3 <3
Tocky on 5/4/2016 at 12:10
Quote Posted by henke
You push a guy until he has an outburst and then you call him violent. You write off your own threats as jokes while taking his Hammerite-quotes at face value. Don't you see how your preexisting views on muslims is coloring this whole interaction, and how you are making sure they are being reinforced by it?
I did not make a threat. I wished him peace and understanding in the face of his wish that I be smashed in the face. Being smashed in the face IS violent. Read again. I even edited that part out of the Queue quote to make it clear I was agreeing with the heart part. I did call him a dumbass. I don't know Hammerite quotes. If telling the truth is pushing people then I will continue to push. I won't, however, push my religion on anyone. I won't tell them they have to follow my way or they are lost. fett is not lost. No just creator would bar him, a good and decent person, from paradise and let evil people in based on a brand of religion. I resent the implication that it would. I resent the implication that a being which could create such a wonderful world is that much of an asshole. I don't know the mind of God. I resent those of any religion who think they do. I would accept the judgement of a good and decent God if there were one. I certainly don't accept your judgment.
SD on 5/4/2016 at 16:35
Personally I think BruderMurus got off lightly. Proselytising should be about as acceptable here as advocating sex with children. Of course, Muhammad did both, which I think makes the point for me.
faetal on 5/4/2016 at 19:39
I have to agree that using someone's close call as an opportunity to push religion is fucking vile, but doing it in a less inflammatory way would be less likely to just polarise.
Tocky on 6/4/2016 at 00:59
Me too, Dave. I too am sorry Queue is an asshole.
Always count on me to throw you under the bus. Besides everybody knows I'm an asshole. Not news. Hey, I swear I did not go off nearly as bad on Bruderman as the Baptist woman who said my nephew wasn't going to heaven because he committed suicide. Anyway, party in hell with me boys the first blowjob is on me. No, I said ON me.
Queue on 6/4/2016 at 01:57
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