Low Moral Fiber on 15/10/2006 at 02:45
Good GRAVY I'm glad I don't live a block from Beale anymore. I'm sure at one point it was working as intended all BLUES CITY USA and people playing soul on sidewalks or in dusty bars. Nowadays it's night after night of the same 5-mile wide repeating bass lines and shitting "gangsta walking" (sup homeboy wanna buy a bootleg of Hustle & Flow filmed here in Memphis na mean ya errrrd) peckerheads picking up the same long-since-crested the hill barflies who look like they've been left in the microwave for too long.
Wait what is this thread about
FUCK YOU MEMPHIS
Para?noid on 15/10/2006 at 11:22
I'd like to see it as a sign that the youth are finally abandoning hardcore after more than twenty years of this meaningless bullshit
ercles on 15/10/2006 at 22:45
Well I thought the popular swing from rock to hip-hop/rap happened a couple of years ago.
Kalit on 16/10/2006 at 12:14
Quote Posted by Para?noid
I'd like to see it as a sign that the youth are finally abandoning hardcore after more than twenty years of this meaningless bullshit
Yea.. because hardcore is meaningless. Fuck you.
Turtle on 16/10/2006 at 21:43
Quote Posted by Kalit
hardcore is meaningless.
Truth.
fett on 16/10/2006 at 22:04
Beale pretty much sucks now. I think most of the booking people are looking for bands 'with that Creed sound' (shudder...).
HELLO YOU FUCKWITS.
Para?noid on 16/10/2006 at 22:13
Because hardcore punk seems to have kept itself to itself I consider it meaningless. Even the direct influence it has had on bands like Slayer and Metallica isn't saying much- both of these are unchanging, bloated one-trick-pony ROCK monstrosities that will never die because people have learned since the days of Jimi, Keith and Bonzo.
But mainly because it's the kind of music that only really exists in a live format, with an aim to provide some dicky phrase like "catharsis for a disenfranchised, angry youth". Essentially the format is the same everywhere you look- it reminds me of the old blues musicians where people would be more interested in the performance of the music rather than the actual song. Content, therefore, becomes second rung and to most English people that just doesn't click.
We are, after all, the people who stole punk from the US in the first place and made it all arty farty and conceptual in one way or another. Even the abhorrent, DIY "Bollocks" cover was meticulously conjured up by people who knew exactly what the fuck they were doing. Looking at early US hardcore album covers, there's this more slapdash, tounge-in-cheek, "nobody-really-thought-about-this" cartoon violence thing going on that is completely indistinguishable from the next.
But fair enough - looking at a cover like "London Calling" which itself is almost certainly a parody of an early Elvis album, you have the same kind of approach. I just think that (maybe unintentionally) it's a modest nod to the roots of rock music, something I can't see in a lot of hardcore. The product seems to be blind rage and anger served up on the same plate each time.
It's pretty irrelevant me saying all this, since I hardly listen to hardcore anyway. I'm sure there's a rich and illustrious history with many unexpected twists and turns but I can't help feeling all this because it is the most unsubtle, raw and possibly ugliest (I mean it's either that or US / Mainland Europe metal) music ever created. But what would I know? Over here people either subscribe to the sound of a record label or try and make everything work in an album / EP format.
Which reminds me - when are you yanks going to invent the next proper genre so we can get hold of it and make it good?
Scots Taffer on 16/10/2006 at 23:19
I read this title and thought: is this black man falls into a toilet - native american indian redux?
