Muzman on 7/7/2008 at 09:59
Trivia: the only CGI in Alien 3 is the cracks on the alien's head near the end and some stuff in space.
(edit: damn you, default pagination!)
Vivian on 7/7/2008 at 10:06
I might be wrong, but didn't they also CGI the things shadow? Everything else was puppets and chemicals, like in the good old days.
Rogue Keeper on 7/7/2008 at 10:13
It was Woodruff or Gillis on the A3 commentary on Quadrilogy set pointing out the cracking head was the only CGI shot of Alien, but I take it as "the only digital 3D model of Alien in the film" - far as I know they erased the puppet wires digitally, not by optical copying which decreases quality of the image.
rachel on 7/7/2008 at 15:57
My first reaction reading the thread title was, What the fuck?
24 hours later I'm trying to elaborate on that. No can do...
What. The. Fuck?
It's right there in the Bible:
"And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou make the first movie. And thou shalt make three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt make, and the number of the making shall be three. A Fourth shalt thou not make, neither make thou a second, excepting that thou then proceed to a third. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Camera of Antioch towards thy producers, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
Rogue Keeper on 7/7/2008 at 16:10
Quote Posted by Digital Nightfall
I am not sure why so many people hate Resurrection so much. Please explain.
I do not have a counterargument to the contrary, I'd simply like to understand why it is so disliked.
Lots of slime and gore, almost no fear. Little to none thrill from and engagement into deviantly cut action scenes. Bleak, unsympathetic characters and their overacting or script's lack of space for the charasters to emerge, for their actors to perform anything interesting. Aliens turned into slimy space Velociraptors (thanks to re-design of the legs and their sound changed from chilling, otherwordly hissing to common Puma-like RRROARs).
An unsuccesful attempt of a weird French director to create a surrealist horror, which in the end is rather disgusting than surrealist and certainly no horror at all.
Weaver & Ryder relationship and performances are the only apology for this sorry piece and just few good scenes (like Ripley meets clones) save it from trash bin. Special Edition is not much better, even though it contains two additional interesting scenes (alternate opening titles and finale on desolate Earth).
The_Raven on 7/7/2008 at 16:37
Quote Posted by Muzman
So the situation isn't quite like Highlander 2 or Terminator 3...
Those are two other good examples of series that have been rebooted midway through.
Dia on 7/7/2008 at 17:18
Quote Posted by raph
It's right there in the Bible:
"And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou make the first movie. And thou shalt make three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt make, and the number of the making shall be three. A Fourth shalt thou not make, neither make thou a second, excepting that thou then proceed to a third. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Camera of Antioch towards thy producers, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."The exception being, of course, Pirates of the Caribbean. :p
Kolya on 7/7/2008 at 19:29
Quote Posted by Muzman
Trivia: the only CGI in Alien 3 is the cracks on the alien's head near the end and some stuff in space.
This is rumour control. Here are the facts:
The moving aliens were filmed against bluescreen and optically composited into the live-action footage which explains why they look so out of place.
Inline Image:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1937/vlcsnap50132uq7.pngk, no cgi but you definitely see the trick there and I found it disturbing even though I'm usually not too picky about stuff like that.
Renault on 7/7/2008 at 20:39
Seconded. And thirded. Fourthed. Good lord, that thing is so awful. How/why did anyone ever think it looked good, and how did it make it out of the early sketch stage? I don't care what it stands for, or symbolizes, it's fucking ugly and uncool, and just completely lame. :mad: It's hard to believe that's the best they could come up with, it really is.
Also, Joss Whedon has this to say about the script:
Quote:
It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable.
DaBeast on 7/7/2008 at 21:12
Joss Whedon is just sore that they didn't have enough teenage super women.
