nicked on 3/8/2009 at 12:58
I guess. If that's the explanation then it surely wouldn't have taken more than 30 seconds to tie that loose end up.
Vasquez on 3/8/2009 at 13:03
Quote Posted by nicked
I guess. If that's the explanation then it surely wouldn't have taken more than 30 seconds to tie that loose end up.
It wasn't loose so there was nothing to tie up, it would've been just unnecessary pointing-out, and wouldn't THAT have been aggravating? ;)
ZymeAddict on 3/8/2009 at 14:45
Quote Posted by Vasquez
Yeah, a big, strong but not-terribly-bright male character is never seen before in action films ;)
I'll give you a hint: Johner = Jayne = Hudson
Johner = big, strong, not-terribly-bright mercenary who is only out for the money, works with a group of misfits on a crappy ship, and is in general disliked by the rest of the crew.
Jayne = big, strong, not-terribly-bright mercenary who is only out for the money, works with a group of misfits on a crappy ship, and is in general disliked by the rest of the crew
Hudson = loudmouth, not-terribly-bright US colonial marine who talks a big game, turns into a whiny wimp when shit starts to go down, but redeems himself by going down fighting in the final battle.
Yes, I see...
Vasquez on 3/8/2009 at 15:42
Oh, you took the analysis that far. Then you're right, it very well could be that Jayne/Johner character has never appeared in a movie before :)
(Although Jayne does redeem himself, or at least tries to, in Ariel [/geeky nitpick])
june gloom on 3/8/2009 at 16:15
Johner was, in turn, one of the few interesting characters in A:R.
Morte on 3/8/2009 at 16:56
Quote Posted by Zygoptera
I'd actually have to agree in part with dethtoll- Whedon's writing can be, for want of a better term, overtly pretentious/ stylised. Significantly, it does tend to be pretentious but otherwise good, which I'd take any day over unpretentious but awful, the current industry standard.
How in the name of fuck is Whedon's dialogue pretentious? Does anyone on the internet even know what that word means anymore?
Christ I hate the way people throw pretentious around the second something dares to hint at having an idea or identity of its own.
Anyway, I'm not sure how I feel about Scott going back to Alien. One the one hand, it's about as good as the franchise can do. On the other hand, Alien is almost a perfect movie, and it's hard to see how he can really top it, especially since the mystique is completely gone from the Xenomorphs at this point. Plus, a prequel is never a good sign. I fear Sir Ridley will disgrace himself.
I'd totally sign up for this though:
Quote Posted by someone at quartertothree
You know, it would probably be a financial disaster, but it would be awesome if Scott just made some insanely esoteric Space Jockey prequel film that nobody fucking understands. No English dialogue, no discernable exposition outside of what you see on the screen, no narration, no nothing. Just wholly alien creatures going about their business with no thought to the audience. Like a sci-fi Apocalypto with no subtitles.
fett on 3/8/2009 at 19:18
Kaylee Frye: Sometimes people have feelings. I'm referrin' here to people.
Jayne Cobb: She is startin' to damage my calm.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: [on the ship's intercom] This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then - explode.
Jayne Cobb: Shiny. Let's be bad guys.
Kaylee Frye: We're going on a year now, I ain't had nothing twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Dear Buddha, please bring me a pony and a plastic rocket...
Hoban 'Wash' Washburn: Can I make a suggestion that doesn't involve violence, or is this the wrong crowd for that?
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Doctor, I'm takin' your sister under my protection here. If anything happens to her, anything at all, I swear to you, I will get very choked up. Honestly, there could be tears.
Kaylee Frye: "Look! They got boy whores! Isn't that thoughtful?"
Zoë: They take the ship, they'll rape us to death, and sew our skin into their clothing. And if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order
Which ones of these are pretentious? I just can't spot 'em like I used to. :grr:
Sulphur on 3/8/2009 at 19:51
Quote Posted by Morte
I'd totally sign up for this though:
Quote:
You know, it would probably be a financial disaster, but it would be awesome if Scott just made some insanely esoteric Space Jockey prequel film that nobody fucking understands. No English dialogue, no discernable exposition outside of what you see on the screen, no narration, no nothing. Just wholly alien creatures going about their business with no thought to the audience. Like a sci-fi Apocalypto with no subtitles.
MotherFUCKER, I had the exact same idea when I heard about Scott doing a prequel. A movie told from the aliens' perspective would be one of the few legitimately intriguing spins on the franchise. Who is this quartertothree guy?
SubJeff on 3/8/2009 at 20:47
That is SO on the money.
No one has the balls to do it though. Pussies.
